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I bought the bike as a carry over new in March of 09, I'm middle age and normally ride motorcycles. the LTZ needs WAY MORE power, if I was smart I would have bought the outlaw 450 mxr, or the 525. I pulled the baffle/silencer/spark arrestor and had way more power. Now I will purchase a jet kit and K&N filter and hopefully get more power. I have to say the machine does run well and will even start when it's -10 below zero. Jumping with the machine is difficult, but wheelies are easy. I was thinking of trading in for a 2008 carry over 450mxr, but I'm not really getting much for a trade in value, I paid $5,200 10 months ago and may have like 60 miles on it. with about $300 of after market parts and all I'll get on trad in it $3,400.