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Retro Ride: 1984 Honda VF1100S

Wednesday, March 5, 2014
The 1984 Honda V65 Sabre, or VF1100S, was a bike that captured the imagination of the media and riders alike, with superbike power, top-line comfort and convenience features, low-maintenance requirements and edgy styling. To this day, if you can find one in good condition, the Sabre is a great ride, even after 30 years, but finding one in good condition is the trick.

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In the Madison, WI area, Suter’s (Sooter’s, not Sutter’s) Speed Shop trades in older (remember to call them “vintage”) motorcycles. As a result, it is a shop I visit pretty often, because you never know what they may have in their inventory (unless you check it online at: www.sutersspeedshop.com/ ). One day early in 2011, I was there and spotted a 1984 Honda V65 Sabre in excellent condition. After a little dickering on price, I acquired it.

After 30 years  the Honda VF1100S is no longer near the top of the horsepower heap  but it does what it does well enough to remain an imposing machine for day trips or touring or just knocking around Wisconsins beautiful back roads.
After 30 years, the Honda VF1100S is no longer near the top of the horsepower heap, but it does what it does well enough to remain an imposing machine for day trips or touring or just knocking around Wisconsin’s beautiful back roads.
Back in the early half of the 1980s, the 1100 cc powerhouse used in the V65 Sabre and Magna models was the top of the Honda V-Four line. With four valves per cylinder, double overhead cams, liquid-cooling, four carbs and six speeds with shaft final drive, the V65 powerplant and powertrain was one of the most impressive performance packages Honda had ever put on the market. With the engine producing a claimed 121 horsepower, the calculated top speed at the 10,000 rpm redline in sixth gear is enough to make even experienced riders weak in the knees: 177 mph! Heck, the Sabre can break the 55 mph speed limit in first gear!

The claimed numbers appear to be backed up by actual period road test data: Cycle magazine’s staff achieved 0-60 mph in 3.04 seconds, a standing start quarter-mile in 11.2 seconds with a terminal speed of 121.69 mph.

Despite those imposing performance numbers, the Sabre is predictable, well-mannered and easy to ride. Of course, its sheer size is noticeable immediately, particularly in low-speed riding around town or when you have to maneuver the bike by hand. But the weight and long 62.6-inch wheelbase that works against the rider around town, make for stable, smooth handling out on the open road.

The only time all that horsepower begins to get a little intimidating is when you tuck down behind the fairing and roll the throttle on. Before you know it, those 600 pounds of motorcycle are feeling really light and the frame-mounted fairing is buffeting in the wind like the whole thing is ready to take flight. Some vibration even becomes apparent above 8000 rpm, but at most speeds the V-Four is smooth.

Don’t take my word for it, though. Here’s what Cycle magazine testers said about the Sabre in their July 1984 issue:

The V65 Sabre was probably the best sport-touring bike of the Asian bikes of 30 years ago  and maybe one of the best in the world. Hard bags that doubled as luggage were available  but lighter semi-rigid throw-over bags work well for most day trips.
The V65 Sabre was probably the best sport-touring bike of the Asian bikes of 30 years ago, and maybe one of the best in the world. Hard bags that doubled as luggage were available, but lighter semi-rigid throw-over bags work well for most day trips.
“Straight line, high-speed work is the Honda’s forte; set all the dampers on maximum, pump the fork full of air and load the rear suspension with about 35 PSI—the 1100 will suck up long stretches straight road effortlessly.” And, they added, “The Sabre gobbles up fast, smooth sweepers, as well, tracking steadily through corners, yet responding willingly to input through the handlebar. With the fuss-free shaft drive and sure-footed high speed manners, you’d swear the Sabre was at least part European. No Euro-bike, though, ever pumped out nearly this much horsepower.” Amen, Cycle, amen.

Of course, with all this hype about horsepower and straight line speed, the big Honda’s ability to scrub off all that speed is perhaps even more important. The twin-piston double disc brakes up front deliver most of the stopping power and the calipers activate the TRAC anti-dive system. They are augmented by a single disc brake with double piston caliper on the rear wheel. When used in unison, the three disc brakes can dramatically, but predictably haul the Sabre down to a stop. The Cycle road testers documented stopping from 60 mph in only 122 feet.

The Sabre’s fairing and performance credentials might make you think it’s a sportbike with the speed tuck, forward-leaning, fetal position seating that type of bike usually has. Not so; in fact, it has more of a conventional seating position with high enough bars and mid-ships footpegs to make for an upright riding posture with just a bit of forward lean due to the long, wide 5.8-gallon fuel tank pushing the seat location back.

The handlebars are something of a puzzle, rather narrow and with minimal rearward sweep. As a result, they have a flat appearance and even after adjustment to tilt them back a bit, will have the rider’s hands hitting the edge of the windshield when turned to full lock. For riders under six feet tall, the long tank and 33-inch seat height combine to make the Sabre a little awkward to handle for parking and stop-and-go situations, but once under way, it’s no problem at all.

Going along with the hydraulic disc brakes is a hydraulically-operated, wet multi-plate clutch that feeds the Sabre’s triple-digit horsepower to a six-speed overdrive transmission and shaft final drive.

All the focus being on the power of the big V-Four engine can cause the refinements on the VF1100S to be overlooked, such as the instrument panel. The speedometer and tachometer are conventional analog instruments, but there are LCD (liquid crystal display) indicators for fuel level, engine temperature, gear position and the usual display of warning lights for oil pressure, neutral, turn signal and even a warning light to indicate burned out tail light.

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The bullet nosed fairing has a smoke tinted windscreen and an up-turned top edge that does a nice job cutting wind turbulence for the rider, while allowing a good view over the windshield. Looking through

the windshield was apparently never really given serious thought. Storage is available in the panniers inside the fairing; one compartment locks with a key (that is not matched to the ignition) and the other compartment has a non-locking rotary closure button. Though they don’t seem all that large, the fairing compartments actually can store quite a bit of cargo. The tool kit has its own locking storage box behind the right side cover, so that frees up the fairing space for other things.

Once you get over the stunning performance of a bike like the V65, you begin to notice the amenities, the quality of the ride and build quality—but twist that throttle good and hard for a bit and you are quickly reminded of what the bike is all about—even after 30 years!
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Harley480   March 12, 2014 11:28 AM
Poncho167 - The Magna ran 10.92 with Jay Gleason riding, he was a professional racer!,...I personally ran 11.06 on my Sabre and I am a big dude,...I beat many Magnas (1100's before you say 750) and the Sabre isn't as wheelie prone and the Magna....BUT...I could hold the front wheel up thru 3rd gear if I wanted to....the forward lean when seated on the Sabre made it more stable than the Magna and more of an all day ride.
Harley480   March 12, 2014 11:21 AM
I had 2 of these...one exactly as this one, same color the other was the awesome one,..it was burgundy and black...had the factory fairing as shown here but also had the factory saddle bags....it was a sport tourer to the max. It was also the fastest bike I ever owned and beat everything I came against....perhaps it was a lack of ability on the opponents part but it beat V-Maxes GSX R1100 Suzuki's, and VF1100 Magna's! It was a pleasure to ride handled great (as good as a long wheelbase bike can be expected to handle) and was comfortable. The growl from the airbox was awesome too...what a sound and what a rush to feel the acceleration from that thing as quiet as it was at first was a major surprise,..you didn't expect that thing to launch like it did. I really miss that Bike.
Harley480   March 12, 2014 11:21 AM
I had 2 of these...one exactly as this one, same color the other was the awesome one,..it was burgundy and black...had the factory fairing as shown here but also had the factory saddle bags....it was a sport tourer to the max. It was also the fastest bike I ever owned and beat everything I came against....perhaps it was a lack of ability on the opponents part but it beat V-Maxes GSX R1100 Suzuki's, and VF1100 Magna's! It was a pleasure to ride handled great (as good as a long wheelbase bike can be expected to handle) and was comfortable. The growl from the airbox was awesome too...what a sound and what a rush to feel the acceleration from that thing as quiet as it was at first was a major surprise,..you didn't expect that thing to launch like it did. I really miss that Bike.
Poncho167   March 12, 2014 08:14 AM
This bike was real nice like the V65 Magna. The Magna was the quickest quarter mile at 10.92. Tops for at least one year if the magazines if I recall. The V45 Sabre and Magna were also nice for middle weights.
kawatwo   March 5, 2014 08:54 PM
These articles on the older bikes are cool! Would like to see my favorite. The 86/87 250 ninja. That bike was magic on a tight road. And, boy do I miss Cycle magazine!
Shaker   March 5, 2014 01:22 PM
I am a very happy fortunate guy to own 1 of these brute's , i even have the stock lowers ;) , [URL=http://imgur.com/jhId1VA][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/jhId1VA.jpg?1[/IMG][/URL]
boscoe   March 5, 2014 09:39 AM
Enjoyed your ride down memory lane. I had the 700 cc version with the same Hondaline fairing, which is an accessory on both bikes. Original cost: $900 in 1984! The V65 was always a relative handful compared to the smaller bike, which I believe had better over-all balance. Still, the machines have aged well as you note. After much soul searching, I just sold mine two years ago to make room in the garage for other machines. Amazingly, I don't miss it. Though I don't miss either of my ex-wives, either (though the Honda was with me through both).