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Teutul Feud - Sr. Sues Jr. in the OCC

Monday, December 28, 2009
S S Cycles President Brett Smith took the stage with Paul Sr. and Jr. to celebrate the unveiling of the OCC Bagger  the first bike to run with a rubber mounted X-Wedge engine.
Back in happier days - Paul Teutul, Sr. and Paul Jr. pose with S&S Cycle's former president, Brett Smith. Now Smith has stepped down, Paul Jr. has left OCC, and Sr. is suing Junior over rights to the company. Now that's drama!
The Orange County Choppers' saga only gets uglier. It appears that the dissension between father and son has reached a new boiling point as father reportedly is suing son over stock holdings.

The Times Herald-Record reported that a lawsuit has been filed in New York State Supreme Court in Goshen for what could potentially amount to millions in damages. At the beginning of season six of ‘American Chopper,’ Paul Jr. was fired after a big on-air blowout with Senior. As part of the termination, Jr. was supposedly obliged to sell his 20% ownership in OCC to Senior. That agreement is now in debate, along with exactly how much Senior should pay Paul, Jr. for his share of the company. Seems like the two can’t agree on a price, so Senior wants the court to appoint an appraiser so that the value of the company can be ascertained.

The suit also reportedly asks for an injunction that would bar Paul Jr. from ‘engaging in competitive business activities and interfering with the company's relationship with suppliers.’ On the flipside, Senior is asking for compensatory damages that could total more than $1 million, and punitive damages of $1 million.
 
The show’s success hinged on the volatile relationship between Junior and Senior, but this takes it to new lows. The on-camera disputes served as entertainment, but when father and son end up head-to-head in court, the only winners are the lawyers.
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Comments
milwaukee October 24, 2011 10:48 PM
Paul Jr. would have never lasted a month in a real job with his poor attendance and jerkin off on the job. Mikey....what a worthless little boy in a mans body, he will never grow up, if it was'nt for Sr. he would be living in a box behind burger king. Sr. obviously has some issues too. So sad, It's family that makes a man wealthy not houses,bikes and fame.
TT July 4, 2011 09:35 PM
99% of the people feel sorry for PJ and Mikey while they are just two disrespectful breads who think their dad owns them everything. They think that they are the ones responsible for OCC's success. Nobody thinks why Discovery chose Paul sr and his OCC 10 years ago to do the show the first place. And Mikey was getting free ride along with the family's success. Don't even get me started on his paintings. What an insult to other artists. Who is he kidding?
Also, the thing I don't understand is how blind is Paul jr? He finally works long hours for PJD since he is responsibe for the company. What does he think about his own work ethic before? Besides, he did not start the PJD from scratch. He had helps from the show and Discovery Channel. He should really go out ther cold and do something on his own. He said he would not allow his emplyee such as Odie to be disrespectful to him. What about himself when he was Paul sr's employee.

I really hope some "friends" of Paul jr can point it ot to him one day. Don't just keep feeding his ego.
gribniff February 23, 2011 12:09 PM
I can't even watch the show any more. I was a great fan until the breakup. Sr. is an arrogant, self centered insecure ass. He feels the need to micro-manage things that he knows nothing about because he can't control anything else in his life. The only vision he has is "old school". Wake up and look at life. Caring more about your dog than your sons is a clearly not normal. You have 3 sons and you admit that you do not have a relationship with any of them. Hello - - maybe it's not them. Go to a counslor, a priest or whoever you need to so you can get you head right. It's funny and sad every time you do something you say how Paulie couldn't do that. You talk him down every chance you get. He never talks badly about you. By the way I have size 13 if you need a kick start
Barry -Forgive January 31, 2011 08:23 PM
In the end thats your son. (and thats your dad). After the days done(and the shows over) it all comes down to family and your ability to forgive and forget. I hope that yall forgive one another.
Dan -Hotrod8983 January 31, 2011 07:53 PM
Ok, senior can be a controlling, overbearing jerk, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's wrong. The non-competition portion of the lawsuit makes sense; it's more than just a minor conflict of interest to be collecting profits from OCC while you're competing with them. No court in the world would allow GM to own a portion of Ford and be in direct competition. As far as jr 'making' OCC what it is, poetic justice would be for a key employee of his new shop to show up whenever they please, take 2 hour lunches, gab on the cell during working hours, and basically show him the same respect as an employee that he showed to Sr when he worked for him.
Nick CCC -you got to be s**ting me January 25, 2011 09:46 AM
Sr. is a gready SOB, why the f**k do you want to take down your own kid, I'll tell you why-- He has controll and insecurity issues. The dude is old and flaby now-- LET IT GO DOUCHE AND LIGHTEN THE F**K UP!!! Damn pay the guy what you owe him and move on. Surround by a bunch of kiss ass cowards of course there tell you what you want to hear.
raspy76 -kill sr January 20, 2011 02:41 PM
Paule sr just needs to drop dead He mite have started building bikes but Paule jr took it to a new level. I am about to buy my next bike and i was going to occ but I cant give my money to an ass. Jr see you soon
LJ -OCC January 19, 2011 10:15 AM
1. I had some sympathy for Sr. until he didn't show for Jr.'s wedding. His statement on camera was something to the effect "what's in it for me if I go". He's your son, and if you don't want to go to the reception, at least show up for the service and leave afterward. 2. Why is it that not only has Sr. alienated Jr. and Mickey, but also Danny, the one who runs OC Ironworks? That says something as well. 3. All of the negative maneuvering is from the OCC side. Why if OCC's success was totally and completely due to the work of Sr. (as he repeats week after week) is Sr. working to sabotage Jr. business. Wouldn't it just be better for Sr. to "Hit the Streets" with superior designs and product, and have interest dissipate from Jr.'s undertaking? Or is he worried that his "Push it out the Door" product design, he does wind up as the number two designer in town?
Duglink -Paul Jr wanted to be treated as a equal January 11, 2011 06:53 AM
Paul Jr wanted everyone to know it was him who created the OCC designs. He would strut around and remind everyone that these bikes were his creations........He had the best machinery to work with because if his fathers metal fab business, Without his father, Jr would be just another metal fab worker in the shop. The problem started when Jr announced to the world that OCC would crash and burn without him in the shop and that his father had no clue on how to build a bike or a run that business Who worked harder to create OCC? OCC did not grow because of JR it grew because of the TV show. Jr. and Sr. fail to recognize each others talents. Jr can not stand the fact that his father will always in control of OCC Sr. hates the idea that Jr boasts that OCC is doing well strictly because of his ideas and creations Jr was a star player on a successful team..........unfortunately he thought he was the team.he thought him leaving would send OCC into bankruptcy now Sr is showing him that he got his wish
TECH - MECHANIC December 29, 2010 09:54 AM
YA KNOW WHAT GUYS~~~LIFE IS TOO DAMN SHORT TO BE SQUABBLING MEANINGLESSLY, MINDLESSLY AND JUST ACTING PLAIN STUPID~~~YEAH I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE GOING THROUGH~~~I HAVE A 34 YR.OLD DAUGHTER WHO THINKS THE WORLD REVOLVES AROUND HER {OR THAT IT SHOULD} AFTER 4YRS. THIS NEW YEARS EVE~I'M DONE PLEADING, BEGGING AND GROVELING TO HER~~~
THE ONLY THING IS, SHE'S HOLDING MY GRANDCHILDREN AS PUNISHMENT TOWARDS ME~~~THEY NEED THEY NEED AND WANT THEIR GRANDMOTHER BACK IN THEIR LIFE~~~BUT I'M JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH~~~PAUL JR. AND MIKE YOU'LL BE HAVING KIDS, DO YOU NOT WANT THEM TO ENJOY THEIR GRANDFATHER ? I KNOW HE WOULD VERY MUCH LOVE THEM IN HIS~~~AND IF YOU THINK SO UNHIGHLY OF YOUR FATHER~DROP THE DAMN JR. PART CUZ YOU SURE DON'T DESERVE IT~~~
sickofsr -JR all the way December 21, 2010 10:07 AM
Sr.had more compassion for his dog this week than he has ever shown for his boys.
jlperez -new lows December 14, 2010 12:23 AM
I knew that there was a lawsuit pending because Sr claims that the 20% Jr agreed to sell him upon termination, is worth nothing...according to Sr.... But, I didn't realize that Sr wants an injunction that would ban Pauly from engaging in competitive business activities and interfering with OCC's relationship with suppliers. And on top of that, Sr's asking for compensatory and punitive damages upwards of a million each. What??? How could you do that to your own son? This guy is unreal. What would the difference be if it had been someone else instead of Pauly setting up a custom motorcycle shop in the same place. He couldn't file an injunction on that shop because that business would be competing with him. And an injunction about interfering with relationships with OCC's suppliers? Cmon. Aren't suppliers in business to make money, too? They're supposed to just sell to OCC? I'm sure OCC isn't the only motorcycle shop they supply. I just don't understand it and I feel so bad for the boys. I think that Sr's business sense has helped build OCC into the hugely successful business it is today. But Pauly's creativity, ingenuinity, and theme bikes is what ultimately got them noticed and set them apart from others. For that matter, Pauly even designed OCC's logo. Maybe Sr should compensate him for that. Or, maybe, Jr should be compensated every time that something with the logo is sold or used. But the difference is, that Jr hasn't even thought of that...because he's not that kind of person. He doesn't want to take anything away from his father's business or his father's business ventures. He just wants to do his own thing and build his own bikes. He would have stayed at OCC if they could have worked together. I, personally, think it was best for him to start his own business. Sr keeps saying that Jr has never completed anything or accomplished anything in his life, but yet he accomplished helping him build OCC. What about that? That's a HUGE accomplishment.
jrperez -my opinion December 13, 2010 08:10 PM
I forgot to add jr is no angel nor mike. But you dont set out to take food of you childs table. regardless of how they are good or bad.
jrperez -my opinion December 13, 2010 08:06 PM
I have watched the show since the start and it's obvious to me that paul sr. has allowed the money and fame to go to his head. Have you ever noticed when sr. shakes someones hand he rarely looks them in the eye. Everybody knows that tells alot about who you are. Sr has said it himself to Jr, that he is the one who deserves it not jr. He should get some advice from a proud father like arlen nesss who's son and grandsons are succesful because they have taken care of eachother and been taught to be proud of who they are. Sr's track record speaks for itself he has done this to his other son aswell. And I dont hear jr talking about him or anyone at the shop. I think the only one who I havent heard say something about paul or mike is rick. I wonder what senior will do when his time is up? leave it all to the dog?
TXflame -Arrogance Gone to Seed December 13, 2010 11:43 AM
1st, if Paul Jr could show up for work on time and not disappear for hours, most of this crap wouldn't have happened. I heard him mention work ethic the other night. Interesting he doesn't have one.
2nd Mikey is a lazy freeloader. He didn't have an arguement with his father but he's going to abuse his relationship with his father because his brother has no work ethic.
Mikey tries all these lame projects to try to make money without working.
If Sr had come to the wedding, how would he have been treated? I think they wanted him not to come so they could play their games.

Sr started the business, grew it, and the boys think they made it work. Personally I think Paul Jr is an arrogant ass that thinks the world revolves around him. Mikey is an idiot that can't handle real work, and Sr is just a stubborn old coot that has too much pride to admit anything was his fault.
They all belong in counseling. Heavy duty counseling.
Bowhunter 67 -grow up sr. November 8, 2010 08:17 PM
I've been watching the sr.vs jr. episodes it seems to me that jr is working real hard to get his business off the ground.I havent heard him make one bad comment or joke about his father.on the other hand all sr. does threw the whole show is put his son down crackes jokes about him. which the dummy motorcycle jump was real childish on his part.sr. knows deep down that his son is very talented he just doesnt want to admit it.thats why in the lawsuit he tryin to ban jr.from starting is on business

jd blackwater -many November 2, 2010 03:57 PM
the courthouse drama is a real money maker for the show and the guys are diggin it behind the scenes
Doug -Careful weasels October 28, 2010 10:39 PM
One day the shooting off of mouths will be over. And, just maybe the fractured family may make nice again. Then those weasels Pohl and Jim may find themselves where they belong, at the mercy of Jr. and Mikey. Blood is still thicker than water. I've seen it happen with other family businesses, the only throat you are cutting, may be attached to your own necks.
TONY -Toasted Family Matters !! October 22, 2010 01:28 PM
They should have never went on TV ... Look what happened when money is involed !!!
Wayne Phillips -Realdeal October 22, 2010 11:00 AM
Pride is the underlying issue here. Family first, a feud or disagreement should only enhance a relationship after both sides self reflect and invision what they can learn from each other. Always apologize and realize we're all human. The sun should'nt set on your harsh words towards each other without making them right. Build a relationship and then build a bike. C'mon.
cz -OCC - agree!! October 17, 2010 05:28 PM
I agree with Waltec!! WIN WIN BOYS!! LOVE each other!! They suffer not only a generational gap in terms of work ethic .. but their gap is typical of personality types. A more creative mind, out of box thinker is not as likely to do things in the "BY THE BOOK" means that Sr is demanding. BOTH are right and can be a nice compliment to each other if they'd just stop RIGHT FIGHTING!! Now they've taken it so far and have dug their heels in so deep ... that's it's going to take one of them to step up as the REAL man to draw a line ... put family first ... and move forward together .... different but complimentary teammates. C'MON you two Pauls!! Show the segment of the world that watches you the RIGHT way to do things.
terry hammond -bowtie69 October 15, 2010 01:55 PM
senior obviosly knows how to build a buisness but not a family he needs jr. and mikey in his life for sure. he looks bad i think i wish them them luck.
Waltec -OCC October 3, 2010 03:10 PM
I Believe sr loves his boys. he just doesn't have the emotional tools to deal with all the emotional friction. He simply defaults to his role of a yelling dictator. why ??, because it always worked for him before. How many times do you ask your kids not to do something and they continue doing it. Its not until you blow a fuse or yell, then they seem to listen. A familiar role to many folks and While I don't condone Sr's behavior, I do recognize it.
As far as SR. suing jr. for the 20% ownership of the biz (??).imo- that just shows his and jr's lack of vision and biz.sense. Even if SR. was pissed at the way their relationship ended.... Let the boy strike out on his own with yours' & OCC'S blessing, Making Paul Design a subsidiary company of OCC. While OCC retains a minimum 20% company share of Paul's Design for using OCC'S credit & biz connections on startup. This not only gives JR.his much wanted creative freedom, It also gives SR. an opportunity to expand his portfolio. Why cry over money - as it will never cry over you !! 8^)
metro -DOUCHEBAG show for DOUCHEBAGS September 21, 2010 01:04 PM
The Tuetels are both gigantic, dripping, douchebags...
Kathy -message to Jr September 10, 2010 08:26 AM
I had an alcoholic father as well. You have my empathy. At some point though, you gotta realize that his baggage, anger, and ass-ness is not yours. It stops within his boundaries and it doesn't cross into yours without your permission. Don't let his raging bulls**t affect you. Live your life to the fullest. You have a beautiful wife, home, and starting business. Don't continue to be the victim of your father.
Kathy -PsycDrKat September 10, 2010 08:14 AM
I remember that Sr had an extensive history of alcoholism, which he admitted had more than his share of entitlement and self-righteousness. While Mikey didn't witness a lot of this, Jr sure did. As someone posted, the apple didn't fall far from the tree.

Now, we don't get to see a lot of the overall interactions, and this show is definitely edited for entertainment value, Sr does more than his share of belittling his staff and especially his sons. Jr was the main target while there. No wonder there was a blow-up. I gotta wonder why there was a mass exodus- were they all such lousy workers all those years?

Sr has an ego problem, which probably has an underlying insecurity left over from his drinking days. Heaven help him if he doesn't make amends with his sons. He could have handled this much better than he did.
PeteShow -No Talent September 6, 2010 06:02 PM
Neither SR nor JR has any real talent other than promoting themselves. They are both poor fabricators and SR has really gone mental basically disowning his kids. SR tried to make like it was all his work that built the OCC name, but Paulie and Mikey definitely helped make that show and the OCC name. He showed his true colors the way he treats his kids, SR you're a total joke and a big jerk!!
Dan -May Jr rock the world September 3, 2010 07:51 PM
I forgot to say in my post below how much I want to see the boys do well with the direction they've decided to go. Kick some ass!

Sr. I dont know buddy,, I dont hate you at all but you sure arent a likable man. So how's this all workin for ya? Not a thing you have is worth a spiritual penny! and you sure arent taking your copper ones with ya!
Dan -The nut falls not far from the tree September 3, 2010 07:42 PM
Paul Teutul Sr. has shown his children how to behave in life by example. Like it or not when we become 18 and legally resposible for ourselves this law doesn't mean we no longer learn and thereby exibit likewise behavior of our main role models. In short every time i see or hear Paul Sr.'s degredation of his sons character it's like he speaks into a mirror. Where pray tell has Jr. learned his "skills" of life? for those that insult Jr. for lack of work ethic? the hollerin? the victims mentality? and so on and so on? I feel it's just as plain as the nose on the man's face. For Jr's individual skill-set I believe is the root of Sr's problems with his own flesh and blood. It looks like Sr. has tried for years to make Jr pay for having any "God given" talent greater than his own. Sr. allowed the poor work ethic from Jr. to continue didn't he? He could've brought that to a screeching halt long ago if he wanted to help his son right? So ask yourself why.. Why did he allow Jr. to continue to exibit this poor work ethic and then supposedly fire him for it? its BS! Sadly it looks as though Sr. has grown quite old very quick but reference to money being all important have still not changed even with the loss of his sons. The father shows the son the way in life with his wisdom and still learns more of what he missed when a young man himself. Somewhere Sr. lost his ability to be much of a friend,,,,not to mention a father. It's probably what we dont hear and see is where the real problem is. Strangers among the family? as if there werent already enough to overcome there are strangers in the family now and just maybe stirring the pot is their agenda? dont know but sure wonder
timn -old episodes August 31, 2010 09:49 AM
Discovery has been running old episodes of american chopper, you can see in the early days, Jr definatley had an ego, but when compared to more recent episodes, you can REALLY ssee how his AND SR"s egos EXPLODED. Then I watch last weeks episode of SR Vs JR and what does JR decide to build? ANOTHER web bike! I mean cmon! is that ALL he can do is roll roundbar? And who in that shop is going to build a custom tank? They gonna contract rick petko to do it? Cuz Jr wont tackle it. I guess at the end of the day Im the idiot that watches the talentless hacks, At least SR was a REAL biker unlike Jr
Rick -Mr August 29, 2010 06:46 PM
Money seems to be the root of all evil. At least in this case. You cant take it with you.
MACK DADDYSON -I PITY THE FOOLS! August 26, 2010 10:55 PM
CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?!! REALLY..........HOW BLESSED DO YOU HAVE TO BE FOR THE LIGHTS TO COME ON AND REALIZE HOW SWEET YOU HAVE IT! IS IT THE FIRST MILLION, OR THE SECOND OR IS IT KNOWING YOU HAVE SECURITY THAT WILL LAST A LIFETIME....OR IS IT KNOWING YOU CAN QUIT TODAY AND RIDE HARLEY'S TOMORROW AND TOMORROW AND TOMORROW!!!!!!!! MAN-UP GENTLEMEN, YOU GET ONE SHOT! FIX IT! AVOID THE REGRETS YOU WILL TAKE WITH YOU TO "THE END"
Biker Bill -Paul Sr. August 24, 2010 08:04 AM
Sr. is pathetic, he has lost weight, his voice is now thin and weak, on the old OCC show he sat in his office and rarely turned a wrench when he tried to build a bike he needed everyones help. Now he acts like he can do it all. Their (OCC) designs are only rehashes of old Jr. designs their computer geek puts in an old design and makes a few changes. Let's see him design one from scratch without his computer programs.
tmn -both of them are egocentric August 20, 2010 12:19 AM
BOTH of them are rich because of a t.v. show! NEITHER one of them can build a bike from ground up, without the really talented fabricators around them, NEITHER one of them could build a decent chopper. Did anyone see episode 2 this past thurs? That bike occ built for the window company was TOTAL crap! nothing was really even fabricated on it. Hell id rather just go spend 20 grand on a Big Dog or something cuz thats what it looked like. Ill stick with REAL bike builders like, Billy Lane, Jesse James, the martin bros and guys like that. REAL bike guys KNOW that OCC AND Paul Jr designs are total hacks that got wealthy on HYPE not SKILL
Onagain -Happy in his misery August 19, 2010 05:24 AM
I started watching the show again recently. And one can see the misery in Sr as he speaks about his sons. To put it simple, Sr just does not know how to love someone. He is all chummy with his employees now, because his family doesn't' want anything to do with him. Nothing like paying someone to be your friend. Advice to Sr., Your employees are not your family. They only smile and agree with you because you sign their paycheck. Once that stops, I am sure that they wouldn't want to be anywhere near your sorry butt.
deedee - viever August 18, 2010 11:45 PM
paul jr my parent is like your's i told the parent no more of your garbage after all this time it's over rachael looked in her wedding gown good luck to you in bussness and with your family with rachael
deedee
redwingnut -Sad August 16, 2010 06:17 AM
I cant help but feel sad for those boys. Dan,Paul Jr and Mike are making there way in this world and doing the best they can and they have a man,their "father", wishing them nothing but ill will. He sued Dan with the steel buisiness and now Paul Jr, alienating his entire family by HIS actions and yet cries the victim in it all. I thank God for giving me a father that encouraged me to shoot for the stars and instilling the work ethic to allow me to achieve those goals. His words still echo in my ears as they should so I can instill those same things in my children. Paul Sr, you sir are not a "dad". You will not take any of $$$$$ that you hold so dear to you, with you. You will meet the ultimate "dad" one day and you will have to answer to him and explain yourself and actions to him. I think he will have something a little bigger then a "size 12" for you.
Carlos Morales -Senior Need Psychological Help August 13, 2010 02:34 PM
Wow; does anyone wonder why Paul Sr is divorced. Using depreciation schedules and other techniques, were I to really want to screw a business partner I could show the value as being in the -0- ballpark. I would never do that, NEVER even to a stranger. This guy, Paul SR, does it to his son. Father and Son companies usually run into problems because the father secretly wants the son to always depend on him. Noone can do it as well as I do, so if JR does it differently, then JR is doing it wrong. BS. It is because of the differences that a company run by a father and son can be strong. Usually, as this case shows, it does not work.
Angel -occ August 13, 2010 09:07 AM
Its sad to see the family apart, but thats what money does. SR is out of control but what goes around comes around. Look out occ Jr is going to kill u. Good luck Jr, but u r not going to need it you are Simply Amazing ......
jnibb -WOW learn to Forgive August 12, 2010 10:07 PM
Life is too short to be fighting! You all need to man up and forgive each other. It is sad to see SR saying such bad things about his son. If it wouldn't have been for JR he would not be where he is today. I have never seen SR out working in the shop making the bikes it was always JR. All SR did was yell, scream and cuss at JR and the other workers. When is enough is enough!!!! Do you think people are going to want to continue to hear your madness on the show. Take a good hard look at your life and remember you came into this world naked and you are going to leave naked with NOTHING!!!! GROW UP and forgive each other and move on.....
Black Belt BBB -SR vs JR August 12, 2010 07:09 PM
I just watched the 1st episode of SR vs JR and I have to say that when SR said that OCC is known world wide and nobody knows or ever heard of Paul JR Designs, I personally have to say that ever since OCC first aired from that day on I always saw JR working, fabricating, and designing all the bikes, while SR watched. OCC to me has always been about Paul JR, so I think SR is sadly mistaken, I think Paul JR is known world wide, and from this day going forward watch-out because with Paul, Vinny, & his crew, Paul JR Designs is taking over the roadway.. Good Luck to Paul JR Designs!!!
johnny -die hard fan July 29, 2010 09:18 PM
man talk about a bunch of crap. with out either one there would be no occ yea sr put up the money but jr and the team behind him built it to what it is now. ive watched every single season followed on line and it just crazy to see a family torn apart the way this family has. in the book the family did together there was so much that they went through and i quess now itis finaly come to an end and there is no way to make things good with the family it is truely sad to see.
vettman -is it real June 29, 2010 12:20 PM
Is the fighting real or just for ratings?
It does seem real but it is cable tv you know.
Robin the Technician -OCC March 2, 2010 06:31 AM
We've just watched the episode over here in the UK where Jr goes to OCC with his lawyers to pick up papers. There was Sr bemoaning Jr saying he wants money when he didn't turn up for work for 3 months.... hold on... didn't Sr FIRE him??? so, he expected Jr to turn up regardless? Paul Sr is going to die a lonely old Bastard with all his family disowned. I can't blame Paul Jr and Mikey - I wouldn't let anybody speak to me in that way and i wish them both well. Jr has some great creativity skills and Mikey has hidden talents yet to be tapped. I did hear on the grapevine the Jr was going to get his own show and that American Chopper was being canned!!! Rough justice eh??
NoHoBruin -Never liked SR. February 12, 2010 11:11 AM
I worked on the show, SR was, is and will be an A**hole.
John Goodman -Paul Sr January 21, 2010 06:49 PM
Should be ashame of himself crying over a dog but won't man up and be a real father.Hope the dog bites it.
crew -SR January 19, 2010 10:58 PM
Just saw Paul Sr on the Jimmy Fallon show -- what an unequivocal punk ass little man.

OCC was built on the back of JR's design skills and SR is to self absorbed to recognise it. I use to what the show religiously but haven't what it since Vinny and Cody left. They had a good thing going until SR's huge ego got in the way. Ideally I'd like to see that effing loser end up bankrupt.
EAB -Perhaps... January 12, 2010 07:43 AM
First, I think that WOW hit on the main point. Ok, Daddie, buy back my shares, but at the value of the shares PRIOR to me leaving the company. With companies like Harley losing money because there is no disposable income in this economy, I would guess that OCC is taking a friggin bath right now. The show has to have lost viewers and is not nearly as marketable as it was. (God love him) Junior's main accomplishment outside the company was hanging chrome wheels and knobs on a Coleman tailgate grill. I don't think either of them will realize the success that they had together......unless, and this is a big unless, Jr. gets with Vinnie and Cody and they start building the kinds of bikes that OCC was noted for. Jr. has the design skill, the vision. I also would say that Senior did contribute as far as the business side, but he is a damaged, depressed man that is still fighting his demons. Just because he drug free doesn't mean he's "FREE." I think that the whole family ought to have a sit down with the band "Metalica" as those guys went through a massive awakening a few years back and they are all the better for it.
Susie -OCC - No sympathy for Senior January 12, 2010 06:02 AM
Senior won't get any sympathy unless he truly changes. If he can't control everybody, he gets irate. Stating he didn't want to leave his kids anything because none of them would follow in his footsteps shows just how controlling, unfair, irrational and unreasonable he is.

He doesn't seem to have any parental love (or forgiveness). After Junior tried to make up with him (again), and gave him a BIG hug, Senior wouldn't even hug him back. He just stood there. How pathetic.

Junior contributed the creativity and skill (the "value" as someone aptly wrote) that made OCC what it was. Senior doesn't understand creative thought; that thinking is part of working also. He pushed Junior as if the process of thinking was simply slacking on the job. It's amazing Junior stayed as long as he did and could still be creative. It's sad that Senior doesn't recognize what he had and what he is doing to his kids.

He didn't treat Vinnie DiMarino (and others) well either. Another great loss to OCC.
SteveK -Cool Rider January 11, 2010 01:03 AM
This low life scum sucker, walrus looking, ego moron, never was a father to his three sons. He has no relationship with either of his 3 sons, so what does this tell you about this scum bag? There is nothing more to say about this (as my wife calls him) pig person except, someday he will die a lonely old man. AMEN!
Wow-incredible -Ironic January 10, 2010 11:29 PM
It is ironic that Jr has left the show and now Sr. while suing Jr. is asking the court to determine the value of the business. It would seem that the value itself has been greatly diminished by the exit of Jr. It would be useful for the person that estimates the value to provide a before and after Jr. valuation. That could be a lesson in itself to old Sr.
EAB -Couple of points January 6, 2010 10:07 AM
First. After the age of 18, and having dealt with a father much like Senior, I vowed that I would never talk to anyone that way, and no have better talk to ME that way. That includes family, friends, subordinates, and bosses. ........................... Second, money doesn't buy happiness, it just makes your own misery a bit more bearable and I will say that Paul Sr. is one of the most miserable people I have ever seen. The rage filled screaming and chair throwing is nothing but pent up depression, misery, and anger exploding. I would know as I lived with it for 18 years. Third, independent of ALL of the issues presented above, I quit watching the show after I saw, of all things, "OCC Deodorant at my local grocery store. At that point I knew what audience they were focusing on. I am sure that Milwaukee Mike still uses OCC toiletry products, but I sure as hell don't. As far as the whole lawsuit deal, I figure that Jr. ought to let his lawyer handle it and simply disown his father until his dad gets his own emotional issues sorted out.
Tim B -Family Counseling December 28, 2009 09:27 PM
This family surely needs help. Father, son, and son are/were all addicts. Supposedly two got their issues straightened out while the third is dealing with it now. How can you sue your son, especially when that son helped make your empire? Love him or hate him and whether or not you give him any credit for his bike building skills, Junior helped make that show.

Lots of people have left OCC, including sons Paul Junior and Mikey, so Senior must be one bastard to work for. Judging by the show he seems to be a horrible boss. He wants things done his way regardless of whether or not they're done the right way.
Hogtied -Sad.. December 28, 2009 05:53 PM
My son and I met the Tuetels at Myrtle Beach about 9 years ago.. They had a small awning set up with 3 or 4 bikes on display. That was long before they became famous. It's easy to see that the Hollywood celebrity mentality took over their relationship. I hope they can mend it (unlikely at this point) before Sr. goes to meet his maker. Otherwise they'll both live long enough to regret it..
kdogg -occ December 28, 2009 03:47 PM
This guy is a jack ass for doing this to his sons.jR ia a hell of a better business man and I wish him well and for his father,Who cares because we will not watch the show without JR.
Baggerchris -OCC December 28, 2009 02:03 PM
They are ALL a bunch of jerks.
R34 -The FEUD December 28, 2009 01:10 PM
These guys obviously didn't get their hug over the holidays -Have a coke and a smile fellas...you are family!