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Paul Teutul Jr. Wins Appeal vs Paul Teutul Sr.

Monday, December 20, 2010
Paul Jr. said that they had been wanting to do a production line for a long time but OCC waited until they had the manpower  technology and the capacity to do it right.
Once upon a time, the Teutul's ran a burgeoning family business. Happy days are no more, replaced by an ugly court case pitting father against son.
The OCC drama continues. A decision in the Appellate Division of the Supreme Court of New York (Teutul v. Teutul, 2010 NY Slip Op 09248 Dec. 14,2010) reversed a previous ruling by a lower court forcing Paul Teutul, Jr. to sell his 20% interest in Orange County Choppers to his father, Paul Teutul, Sr. The case has gotten ugly as the two have fought over Paul Jr.’s 20% share in the company. Paul Sr. wants to acquire those shares at “fair market value.” The amount those shares are worth has been a point of contention. Senior tried to tell him those shares were valued at nothing. Junior said that was a bunch of bull. The two have gone back and forth on a method to determine the fair market value of that 20%.

In April of 2010, the Supreme Court of Orange County (NY) ruled in favor of Senior, declaring the option agreement to buy him out was a “valid and enforceable option under New York Law” and that Senior properly exercised that option. It also determined that because of the “fair market value” wording of the buyout agreement meant it “is a manifestation of their intention to have fair market value determined in a matter that falls outside of what their subjective beliefs might be and to be bound thereby” citing another case as an example. Gotta love legal speak, but in essence it gave Senior the go-ahead to usurp Paulie’s shares.

Paul Jr., on the other hand, says wait a minute here. I want access to “a weekly accounting of all expenditures and receipts” of Orange County Choppers Holding, Inc. He also asked that all mail, e-mail and telephone messages still being sent to him at OCC be forwarded to him.

OCC is still operating out of a 92,000 sq. ft. headquarters, they still have a television contract and are landing paying clients. The business has got to be worth something. Whether this case will be resolved before OCC ends up going belly up, who knows? The bigger issue is whether a father taking his son to court will drive an irreparable wedge between the two. Apparently the adage “blood is thicker than water” doesn’t mean much in the Teutul household.
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BugsNova August 12, 2014 04:48 PM
Little Paulie is a hack. Mikey is a retard. Paul Senior is a drug addict and an alcoholic. It's amazing that they are able to create any sort of like that runs or looks halfway decent.
BugsNova August 12, 2014 04:47 PM
Little Paulie has a hack. Mikey is retarded. Paul Senior is a drug addict and alcoholic. It's amazing that they were able to create any sort of motorcycle that runs or looks halfway decent.
chevyford June 30, 2012 07:50 AM
If it wasn't for jr,sr wouldnt have a business "PERIOD".
TEAK November 21, 2011 10:41 AM
Without Senior there would be no Junior....period! Parents are not perfect and our kids arent angels. I think with all of the outside influences the relationship never had a chance and to be honest if the show ever ends....I believe that the father and son relationship will start over.
mayday05 October 24, 2011 11:34 AM
this is the classic "what came first...chicken or the egg" if you ever watched jesse james builds his bikes...he could build anything, but dry and boring to watch. without his dad jr would have never built bikes....and without the son dad would still be buying parts and assembling bikes in his basement. the drama is why they are where the are. just like westling it's the story.the dad is a addict and all addicts have problems with their kids. look at evel and robbie knievel same deal the parent is in competition with their kids. jr is an artist all artists are prima donna's and need a good manager to make sure deadlines are meet. the mona lisa was painted over many years. look at lucas and star wars never done with it. the "build off" was exactly what you thought you would get. sr's high tech clean almost surgically precise and the best technology money can buy bike and jr's wing it piece of art. both were nice but one was cold
PAULJRSC September 28, 2011 12:08 PM
ARE U KIDDING ME JR WOULD'NT BE WHERE HE IS AT IF IT WAS'NT FOR PAUL SR DO U REALLY THINK PAUL JR WOULD BE DOING WHAT HE IS DOIN IF HIS DAD DIDNT START HIS BUSINESS I SEE WHERE THE OLD MAN IS COMEIN FROM BC HE WAS TREATING JR LIKE LIKE AN EMPLOYEE WHICH HE WAS U CANT SHOW FAVORITISM TO YOUR FAMILY WHEN U RUN A BUSINESS HE CAME IN LATE MOST ON THE TIME AND LEFT EARLY HELL SR OWNS THE BUSINESS HE DNT HAVE TO WORK ONY THING HE HAS TO DO IS SIGN PAYCHECKS AND MANAGE HIS EMPLOYEES WHICH I THINK HE DOES A DAMN GOOD JOB AT DOIN EVRY1 IS TALKIN ABT HOW BAD SR IS BUT HAVE U GONE BACK AND SEE HOW MUCH GOOD HE HAS DONE THATS ALL I GOT TO SAY JUST WORK THINGS OUT BC THE SHOW AINT THE SAME WITH OUT U THREE BEING THERE MIKEY IS THE FUNNIEST DUDE EVER BUT JUST LET THING COOL OFF FOR AWHILE AND THING WILL WORK THEM SELVES OUT LOVE THE SHOW AND JR DO YOUR THING GET RITE WITH YOUR DAD BC THATS THE ONLY ONE U GET
carterslad June 4, 2011 09:05 AM
I was a father like Paul SA but in 2004 i lost my son and only child he was 27 that year i lost my dad in JUNE 2004 and we went to funeral but i did think i would be going to my sons funeral in NOV i have a grandson he was 1 when his dad died if not for him i would not be hear i hear fathers bitch about there sons i wish i had that problem.i see Paul SA lost Gus his dog sorry to hear of that i lost a dog and it hurts but a SON it cut out my heart time is short make the best of it
Hawk44Gent May 20, 2011 03:29 PM
Paul Sr. Where do I start? First off, if it weren't for The Discovery Channel selecting OCC to be featured as the bike building shop on the original "American Chopper", Paul Sr would not have anywhere near the estimated net worth of 25 million he has today. OCC opened for business in 1999. "American Chopper" went into production 2002-2003. Without all of the monster exposure through televison, I wonder if OCC would have even survived let alone have been very profitable. The fact that Paul Sr waited and schemed for the right moment to launch a financial Jihad against his son Paul Jr trying to force Jr to turn over his 20% to the old man free and clear was totally dispicible. All those years Sr treated Jr and Mikey like shit in the shop at OCC...not to mention all the years while Jr and Mikey were growing up...and the old man still can't figure out why none of his sons want anything to do with him. I really hated the way Sr treated Vinnie. What a fucking Ogre. Vinnie was the best, most dedicated and hardest working employee that OCC ever had. Vinnie truly cared about OCC and was very committed to getting bikes done and with the highest quality. Vinnie could do it all. Vinnie was the only employee at OCC that was capable of putting a bike together from frame to engine start up by himself. He did the wiring for most of OOC's bikes. He was a good mechanic. An excellent welder. He could rebuild a V-Twin motor and a transmission too. Vinnie could always figure out what was wrong when a newly built bike would not start or operate correctly. And for all that...Vinnie got treated like total shit by the old man. Paul Sr making Vinnie have to keep the shop clean was just ridiculous. Look at the disgusting way the old bastard said good bye to Vinnie when Vinnie finally quit OCC. What an ungrateful douche bag Sr is. He will be rich when he croaks, but he will die alone most likely. Hes gotta at least make peace with that. If being on the wagon all those years has resulted in Sr being such a total fucking asshole...maybe he should go back to drinking. The old man has clearly made a choice between money and his relationship with his sons. Obviously...he chose money. I don't like rich people. I really don't.
bumperhumper May 12, 2011 10:01 PM
I know that paul jr is a good designer, however i feel that he has caused most of the problems in the family. Paul Sr has to run the business and there is alot on his plate. he has to meet payroll pay benefits, meet people that want custom bikes, and alot more. I feel sorry for him and the way the kids turned out. the only reason paul jr is picking up business is because it makes for good television. then there is mikey, talk about having to string someone alone and pay them also. have you seen his so called artwork. ha ha. The way I see it paul jr once again has his hand out with this court battle. It just makes me sad to see how the two boys have gone against their father, shame on you. everyone grow up and patch things up, however i dont feel that is going to happen till after the cameras are gone.
RidroftheWldWnds May 8, 2011 11:22 PM
watch the 1st 2 episodes of the 2011 season of American Chopper, Sr definetly looking sickly with boney arms and losing hair. better make amends with all his children before its too late. In episode 2 this season, new wife went to California. Maybe she has had enough of his crap. Since the shows incarnation, he has had ex wife, mother to the boys and oouple of girlfriends and new wife. Now who has relationship problems. thats just my thoughts
inkmessiah March 13, 2011 10:18 PM
Yea, my dad is suing me for a measly 10k .
Dads can go from good to bad unfortunately.
aint no fool like an old fool...
I.M.
perryinjax March 6, 2011 01:44 PM
Does anyone else notice that Paul Sr. is looking very unhealthy nowadays on the most recent episodes? His eyes are sinking into his head, his hear is falling out at an alarming rate, and he has lost a lot of weight, especially in those "phthon" arms of his..which lately have been looking like two broomsticks wrapped in loose leather..(Which I attribute to maybe him finally getting off STEROIDS)... as it seemed obvious to me he was taking steroids for the previous years, although I have not seen it mentioned anywhere else.. but think about it, you just can't get arms like that from "eating right and working out"... plus look at his volatile emotional personality during the huge arms days.. I hope he has not ruined his health with years of steroid abuse or maybe worse.. he is looking really unhealthy nowadays.. I hope he and his sons can reconcile before he is dead... He kinda looks like a friend of mine did just before dying of prostrate cancer... which I hope for Paul Sr.'s sake is not the case with him also.. But with the arrogant attitude of Paul Jr., I cannot see a reconciliation between the two prior to Sr.'s death if he is ill. Maybe Mikey will at least be at his death bead. I think if someone as arrogant and snide and lazy as Paul Jr. were my son, I would not want him at my death bead anyways... I hope you are not ill Paul Sr. Maybe it is just a sign of old age and getting off steroids. Good luck to the whole family because i think they are going to need it in order to resolve all their issues. They both need to check their egos and sit down and talk like men. But like THAT would ever happen.. the checking of egos i mean... I wonder if Pual Jr. is still thinking he will be able to come in late and take two hour lunches and leave early and only work 4 days per week while playing footsies with his fine little hottie instead of working.. Some advice to Paul Jr.; When you own you OWN business.. You NEED to be the first one there in the morning and the last one to leave at night if it is going to be a success, I wish you all the best, but you are going to have to break a lot of bad habits that were evident in the show when you were working for daddy. Things will be harder now that you are at the helm.. the hot wife is going to have to either find something else to do during hers days, or start hanging out at the shop, if your business is going to be a success. Good luck to them both, Jr. and Sr.. and poor Mikey caught in the middle, Perry in Florida
HK6debwith February 8, 2011 03:53 PM
So sad to watch, grew up without a dad....maybe that wasn't so bad.
Sr & Kate Gosselin should get together...maybe with 12 kids between them one would speak to them!
RJ Johnston -Senior's Final Chapter will be numbered 11 January 31, 2011 10:51 PM
Fumbler Paul Sr ever pick up a tool without dropping it? I've never seen that guy once successfully put a part on a bike without screwing it up or having some one else finish the job for him, never mind design and actually build a bike all on his own. He sits in his office for a couple hours a day, tells the TV camera crews what to do and then splits. Even though that Senior's best years as a welder are 20 years behind him, and he screwed up royally building that Bike-MaHal nightmare off the Thruway, Paul Sr. was smart enough to hire very business savvy shark lawyers to crash & burn it all leaving the Orange County Tax Payers holding the bag after he bankrupts OCC and rides off into the sunset with millions of dollars others actually worked for and earned for him. I bet Senior's fat unhappy wife takes him to the cleaners in divorce court and he winds up all alone drinking himself too death.
Uncle FL -Chap Stick January 31, 2011 09:59 PM
Those few remaining OCC employees were selected based on how often they apply their Chapstick ... we have a new term in our shop for Brown-Noser ... AmmiRATi.
janie -Go Paulie January 30, 2011 07:45 AM
What they need to do is write a brutally honest tell-all about their upbringing with a father so demanding, insulting and undermining. The old man has demons unresovled. It's apparant that Paulie has a different demeanor and set of values that guide him. It's shocking to see a father sue a son because he's building a bike for an innovative technology driven company that they're all familiar with. Just because they had dealings with OCC doesn't give them exclusive rights to future builds. Paulie earned that right on his own merit and companies want to work with him. You can't stop the momentum. Sr. obstructs any opportunity for his son to make a living; meanwhile he prospered off his ideas and labor for years. Vinnie was a pawn too. This destructive behavior is sociopathic and given his personality type, don't expect him to explore too much the "why." In the end you can't convince a narcissist of anything.
Mark -3 ways of seperation January 26, 2011 04:38 PM
It is all sad the way the family fell apart, they all played a major part for the family fall out. Vinne and Rick pretty much pulled the weight of the bikes, but you can not come in to whork when you feel like it, even if you are the owner, lead by example. Vinne did get tired of Jr. alot, awhole lot. Now Jr. is not coming in when he fells like it to his shop, he actually got on that kid buliding the four wheeler for the same thing he was doing at OCC. Mickey could have stayed clear from both Sr. and Jr. cause Sr. carried Mickey on payroll for doing nothing. They should sqaush it all and be family again, plus Sr. sold his business to start OCC it was his hard work for over 30 years that enable them to start this business.
mike cannon -v.n. vet. 69-71, 13th cav. January 20, 2011 06:24 PM
all you pin heads get this, if it wasn't for the discovery channel, the teutulheads would still be in there first one bike shop!!!!!!!!!! theres nothing wrong with that but they would'nt have one percent of what they have now!! it's called all of the free major media commercial time you want! sr. can't add 2+2. jr. has some talent but he would never have stuck around for 15$ an hour, with no show he probably would not have made that, let alone listening to his dad!!!!!!!!!!the old man makes it way to easy to hate him!! jr. got a build with a company that they did some business with before, now sr. is suing jr. for taking his business away, he seems to forget that jr. was part owner of occ before his dad fired him, and jr. stayed out of the bike business for one year, just like his dad forced him to, in his contract!! sr. said he wanted some competion from jr. well he is getting it and he 's squealing like a spoiled pig!!!LIKE I SAID BEFORE, THE BIGGEST PART OF SR.S BRAIN, RAN DOWN HIS MOTHERS LEG!!!ALONG TIME AGO [61 YEARS TO BE EXACT]!!!!! OH DOES ANYONE REMEMBER SR.S QUOTE, "HE SAID, HIM AND JR. WERE A PAIR THAT COULD BEAT A FULL HOUSE, EVERYTIME" man i laughed my ass off when he came up with that bullsh*t GO GET EM TEUTULHEADS!!!!
HAYMAKER -SOLE PROPRIETOR January 12, 2011 12:20 PM
IF YOU CAN'T BE A GOOD FATHER HOW ABOUT GRANDFATHER WHEN PAULIE HAS KIDS? A DOUBLE LOSER! THE STEROIDS ARE STARTING TO TAKE A TOLE AND SOON HEALTH ISSUES WILL BE SENIORS. YOUR KIDS WILL BE YOUR ONLY HELP THEN. GOING TO DR. APPOINTMENTS AND NEEDING RIDES WILL REALLY BOND THE FAMILY, BUT A LITTLE LATE FOR NICE MEMORIES. REMEMBER THE OLD BASTARD AND HOW HE TREATED HIS FAMILY IS A SAD WAY TO BE REMEMBERED. WE ARE ALL GOING DOWN THE SAME ROAD AND THERE IS A THE END TO ALL OUR LIVES. PICK YOUR ENDING.
mike cannon -ok guy January 11, 2011 01:55 PM
i saw paul jr. and vinne work until two in the morning, many times, just so the bikes would be done on time!! when someone owns part of a business they should be able to come in late once in awhile!!!!!! the best part of paul sr. ran down his moms leg, without a doubt!! mike cannon, v.n. vet. 69-71[13th cav.] digg that sucka!!!!!! 1-11-2011 E PLURIBUS UNUM
Annie -Pitiful Paul Sr. January 11, 2011 12:08 PM
Paul sr. what a horrible man, when the bike with the Paulie was crashed, breaking apart the dummy of Paulie, that said it all. Paul sr. is a very sick man, who who even ants to physically harm his son as well as destroy his business, driving by his shop, he is like a child, its really pitiful and sad to see this old man act this way. I wish Paul, Vinne and Mikey all the luck, and wish i could afford a bike from them for my son, they have the vision. Paul sr, is finished. He is just sick in every way.
Krazedkurt -Mr January 10, 2011 09:12 PM
Looking at the way Paul Sr. took advantage two of his sons and just quit relationship with his son Dan make me feel great about my relationship with my sons. I havent always been there for them but I would never walk away from them and then try to undermine everything they do. I feel sorry for Senior as I dont think he has the moral aptitude to understand what love is supposed to mean.
Daryl Martin -choppers January 10, 2011 04:38 PM
Ithink paulie jr is not doing the right thing by saling twenty percent of the company to his father because his father stubborn jackass he thinks that everything should go his all the time and don't work like that all of the time so paulie jr if you sale to your father make him pay more than its worth ok
Pick Me! -Loser SR January 10, 2011 10:57 AM
Sometimes the lower courts get it wrong, sometimes because expertise and knowledge. This is how our courts work and that is why there are higher courts that can correct bad decisions.

Paul SR is a crook and he knows how to scam when it comes to business. I know a guy like this that runs a family business, hard ass, jerk and not too bright. And good luck being an outsider doing business with these types of businesses, they try to screw you.

Paul Sr is a jealous, crooked bastard. Its clear to see. He was always over JR's shoulder saying retarded jealous stuff. Like today, in a rerun he said something like "you are afraid if I get it right you would look dumb"..(something along thoe lines). JR looked at him like WTF are you talking about...its because his jealousy oozes.

Remember SR was never a good dad and a drunk bastard while his kids were growing up.
ted williams -one more thing January 8, 2011 09:00 PM
Somebody commented that you never hear Senior fighting with anyone since Paul left, implying that junior is the cause of the conflict. This is just sillyness. The reason why you never hear Senior arguing with anyone else is because he's a dictator, and nobody dare question his authority. As long as he's in total control, he's "happy", whatever that means. I also think that he's jealous of how much people like his son. Nobody likes Senior, but since Paulie's no longer around, he doesn't have anyone to yell at about this anymore.
ted williams -senior is a jack ass January 8, 2011 08:50 PM
'nuff said
JJC--POCONO MOUNTAINS OF PA -Fan of Sr. & Jr. January 8, 2011 10:18 AM
Both Sr & Jr should step back a little and see what they both have,
and see what they will not have if this feud goes on. If I was Sr.
I would make Paulie a deal:Give Paulie full control of the production
and sales.Remove Steve from his present Job (he has two much infulence
over Sr.)Sr.would remain as Chairman of OCC Holdings,but let the day
to day operations in care of Paulie. If Paulie fails, then he should
turn over his 20 % to Sr.But if Sr.stands in the way of Paulie to run OCC in a profitable way then Sr.turns over 20% more to Jr.This would
make Jr take more interest in the Business side of OCC, give Sr. some
time off and enjoy life,and be the offical ambassador of OCC to help
promote their Bikes.
Dman -Sr. is the man January 7, 2011 12:59 PM
i am sick of everyone feeling sorry for Paul Jr. Paul Sr. may be a hard a** but he got the job done. He has run that company for how many years and hardly ever missed a dead line and Jr. misses one in like the second week of buisness. Sr. gave Jr. a brand new contract and the very next day Jr. shows up 2 hours late who wouldn't be pissed about that. He would always be the last one there and the first to leave he was a horrible employee that should of been fired a long time ago. Jr. is a dam good designer but that is it. Do you ever see Sr. yelling at his employees anymore? no...he got the cancer out of the buisness and they are putting out 3 bikes to 1 of Jrs. Go Sr. win this lawsuit and crush Paul Jr. designs
fishhead2010 -reenactors January 6, 2011 04:39 AM
what a bunch of efin losers,these idiots wouldnt know a chopper from a one legged cancer ridden mastiff named gus. they both have the need for greed not speed. and they woulb be down the road talkin to themselves if it wasnt for t.v. nothing original ever came out of that shop for posers. all you lemmings out there who think ten grand in catlouge parts is a chopper worth a hundred grand should go find another fad to attach yourself to. thirty years ago noone rode harleys except the man and those that truly wanted to be different. malcom forbes and a few celebs were seen on there scooters and h.d. was soon back from the dead.and the fad began. the so called chopper craze is dead,and only the true o.gs. are still around arlen perewitz and a few other small shops that turn out the real deal.so all you followers take off your flannel shirt and your k.ds.open up your chain drive wallet take out you o.c.c.credit card and invest in some civil war apperall,cuz you are all just damn reenactors who love a damn soap opera
Kemper -Senior VS JR. January 5, 2011 02:19 PM
Cut your losses POPS.. The lawyers are going to get it all.. Paulie is likeable, yet as a dad I can see he does not explain his self well sometimes and it seems like criticism. And POPS we all know you will have none of that.. ever.
I am a friend of Pat Johnsons and he is glad to be out, he said.
Make it work guys. My beloved dad is dead.. It changes everything. Jr, you will be a ship with no sail.. trust me.
Pops, It's your flesh and blood. all those Sincafants you run with are yes'ing you for the money..Stop telling them everything. At least Jr with his crappy work ethic will not have that luxury now and you can see just how well you taught him.. Keep watching folks.. it beats Home cooking and Zebras running the zoo on the NFL.. stands for Not f'ing Legal..
Big Jim -You people are on crack January 5, 2011 12:13 PM
How can you defend Paulie. He was always late for work if he ever showed at all, He has NO real fabrication skills. His bike designs look like they came from a comic book, The one time he entered one of his bikes in a real bike show nobody even paid it attention. And im sorry but Vinnie is a hypocrite. He quit OCC because of Paulie. Mikey said it best in one of the episodes "We are his kids and he should be taking care of us". Ching Ching
CK -Just 2 bad January 4, 2011 08:51 PM
I've watched this show from the beginning,see the reruns on ocassion.
When my dad was alive, had him watch it, Boy how I could relate. Our family put the Dys in front of function, ;).

I lost a brother who was very much like Paulie Jr. and Mikey rolled into 1., Yep all of us tiffed it out and wouldn't talked for days, sometimes months. It was hell, but we always came around in the end.
They're both gone and I'd love to be able to just hang out and build something with my bro with Pops saying "WTH?"

All of these players are not angels. They need to maybe go back to basics and become a FAMILY again. Vinnie walked away from all of this several yrs back. Cody went with him,They formed V-Force.
Now the "Boys are Back In Town" making things happen.

P.S. needs to realize that life with his immediate family is more important than his dear old Gus losing a leg, Hell-He's lost a Former spouse who seems like she stood by him during the very hard times,Paul,Danny,Mike and I never hear him mention his daughter.
"Get your size 12 out of your own a-- and patch the quilt!"


willie Vegas Morles -Retired A / C Mechanic. January 4, 2011 08:07 AM
Este Sr se cree que es el rey de Motoras Y como que se olvida que el le hayudo a levantar esta compania Fue su Hijo. Por lo que yo he visto el solo montaba motoras , mientras su hijo es un muy buen disenador de motoras..Pero tambien he visto que el le envidia el talendo que el hijo tiene..Siendo un veterano de Viet Nam me siento muy abochornado de este Sr. ..Le recomiendo que modifique su carracter y la actitud con hijo por que ya estamos viendo en su cara que el tiempo esta acabando con el.Y espero que nunca se enferme por qu eno va a tener a nadie que le cuide...Mas yo tengo mucha confianza de que JR va a progrezar muchicimo y Va tener la major competencia de su Padre. aqui en mi Isla solo vemos el Show por ver el progreso de Paul JR...el cual es todo un caballero . Es Un honnor conocer un joven como Jr. Y admiro muchicimo su talento.. Gracias Por cuidar de Mick... Tambien Eres Un Buen hermano ..espero verlos Algun Dia en mi Isla de PUerto Rico aqui les queremos Muchicimo.
Ginny Kay -GinRicky January 2, 2011 08:57 PM
After watching this weeks episode, it was obvious Sr only went to the therapist for his own selfish reasons. No wonder Mikey does not want to meet alone with Sr. Good thing Jr and Mikey have each other as it sure doesn't seem like Sr will mend fences with his sons.
Mistiann -SO SAD!!!!!!!! January 1, 2011 09:51 AM
As a mother, Sr. makes me sick every time he downs Paul Jr., I just can't understand how a father who claims to love his son can do what he does to Paul and have any love for him, could he explain that to me? I doubt that. And to say on national T.V., Jason is the son he's always wanted, how cruel, how does he think that must hurt his real sons, well I guess when your heartless, I guess it doesn't matter. Paul Jr. will come out the better man, everyone will see. Sr. has a very foul mouth on him, maybe a little church service would do him some good. God gave us our children as GIFTS and he watches to see how we care for them, all I can say for Sr., is God have mercy on your soul because I know God cannot be happy with you. Best of luck Paul Jr.
Bill -Jr gets married December 29, 2010 04:00 PM
Soon they'll be liitle Fockers ruunning around.
Kiki Flanagan -Grow Up Senior December 29, 2010 08:21 AM
There is not much I can add that has not already be said about Senior the 60 year old Man Child,that acts like a 8 year old.

Paul Sr would be nothing with out his Sons,and He knows it.Sure he started the business,but it was knot doing well.Till Jr started working there.
His Trophy Wife,There is something about her I just dont
buy her act.
But the bottom line is I think Paul Jr should Move away to another part of New York or New Jersey and Mickey.

His son Danny has done the right thing,dropped his Dad and Lives his Life with his wife and kids.
My Husband and I have never recived,What are other subling recived.When I gave up and said I dont give a S**t.I had a weight lifted off Me.
GinnyKay -GinRicky December 28, 2010 05:18 PM
Paul Sr is hell bent on destroying Jr. He is acting like a little kid- Paulie jumping off the ramp (and taking his head off), sending a Sr look-alike to Paulie's busines and now this week- having the entire shop drive by PJD honking horns, etc...was childish behavior. Could we have the cameras scan the OCC shop to see if it is messy (cups sitting counters?) and if so, why isn't Sr having a fit over that? And Sr does not speak to any of his 3 sons- why not talking with Dan? Has Sr begun adoption papers for Jason yet-he is the son Sr always wanted. Best of luck to Paulie, Mikey and Vinnie-I hope you succeed.
B -Is this real?? December 28, 2010 07:21 AM
First paragraph states "Senior tried to tell him those shares were valued at nothing."!!

WTF???, For this whole ordeal to find its way to court a reason enough to justify the stock is worth more than "nothing".

Sr. is an effing no-talent idiot.
Youredge -The Old Man is Nothing without the "THE INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY". December 27, 2010 10:11 PM
What is Intellectual Property?

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My father and uncle would not listen to me and our mechanics and (Bess Brothers Cycle, Henderson, Nevada) decided to live in the past. The Old Style without the Intellectual Perveyor of all the idea except for the two bikes Senior fabricated. His idea's of bikes live with Henry Fonda and Cheech Marin. His pride will kill him because he doesn't have the eye or the ability to come up with NEW iudeas.

We were 46 years old in business and being old, acting old and running the busiess as though we were still back in the sixties but living in 2010. I wish the the fanily the best of times but I see this going to no where good.
mike cannon -steroids December 27, 2010 07:46 PM
sr. seems to be off of them now [steroids] the rage they cause have no reason!! sr. stop your hate towards your 3 sons, for your own good!!!!!!
leonard,in s.c -senior get your head out of your back side of your on tail pipe. December 27, 2010 04:08 PM
you have children who love you and need there father and look at gus he did not deserve what happend to him it could be one of your children next man up it want break you or make you less of a man to show your children you love them the best days of tv for me is watching you guys destroy things and have fun together thats what familys about i have 3 kids my self and i still have my toys and i would give it all up to know i can always see them and speak with them you should be proud of them mickey made you laugh and pauley pist you off vinnie and rick worked there butts off for you so all of you made orange county choppers what it is and i like you all and would like to stick my 10and 1/2 up your a... for not working your problems out with your boys i rember the big heart when you put a roof on vinnies house and let rick and vinnie and mickey do there on bikes where did that guy go he had less drama in his live we only live once and we never no for how long love you guys so kiss and make up even if it taste like e-85 good luck.leonard
K9 -Senior is a Pitiful human being December 27, 2010 07:34 AM
Paul Sr. has to be one of the most pitiful human beings I've ever witnessed. He's a liar, a cheat and worst of all, he won't be satisfied until he's destroyed his own son. He's obsessed with Paulie... every word is a dagger, every thought is full of hate. What a pitiful, pathetic excuse for a human being.
mike cannon -mr. December 26, 2010 09:05 PM
occ why don't you start building bikes like paul jr and vinnie did in the first 3 or 4 years of starting the occ business!! no designers or a bunch of yes people around for sr. sr got rid of nubs over money,then he fired the second painter [justin] who i thought was as good as nubs or better, he painted all the bikes that paul jr became famous for!!!then sr. hired nubs back with a bunch of bullsh*t sr stole one or two of justins painters then got rid of nubs for the second time!!!!! all the bikes that come out of occ now are cookie cutter junk!!!!!!!!!!!i guess paul sr. has lost his mind, i guess he is delusional at the very least!!! for this reason i feel sorry for him, he'll lose his court case and most of his family, why does'nt his wife or maybe a friend if he has one tell him you do not sue your partners in a business that has made him rich. you don;t sue the son who was a big part of sr.s being rich!!! sr. get a grip, give paul jr. his 20% and you have to quit slandering your sons every chance you get a chance!!!!I'M A VIET NAM VET FOR REAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!not a phony!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [sr.]got it!!!
Gustavo Reyes -Agree Paul Jr. December 26, 2010 11:37 AM
Paul Jr. siempre es el que ha tenido en sus manos la fabricacion y las grandes ideas del negocio, Paul Sr. siempre los a tratado en forma muy grosera y siempre es el que se lleva la gloria de todo lo frabicado. Ellos han hecho un grn empresa y si lo despidio, lo despidio como trabajador no como accionista, debe dejar que tenga sus acciones he incluso si no soporta trabajar con el, que le pague a Paul Jr. por los disenos. Lamentablemente el dinero tambien acaba con las familias.
Por favor alguien les haga una traduccion de este y tambien sepan que los hispanos tambien ven estos programas y ellos son figuras publicas.
Saludos
Ron -Fan December 26, 2010 10:07 AM
Thanksgiving day tells it all.Paul jr. was with all his family & friends.(A house full of love.)Paul sr. was with his new wife & her 2 kids. Then Sr. put them to work building his barn.
JJBANKS -anyone agree with SENIOR???? December 26, 2010 09:50 AM
I have read many comments from many different sites and i have yet to see ONE person agree with senior on this situation. WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT SENIOR!!! OBV EVERYONE CANT BE WRONG!! I DONT own a bike shop, i DONT have a family business, but I DO have a son! AND I WOULD NEVER DO THAT TO MY SON!! life is SHORT SR, and it doesnt matter how DEEP your pockets are U CANT TAKE IT WITH YOU WHEN UR GONE!! so when your OLDER AND GRAYER......sit back and ask yourself "was it all worth it?" i think you already know the answer to that question. OR DO YOU?!?!?!?
fred dogg -occ December 23, 2010 05:10 PM
its all a scam.occ claims chapter 11.pauly has new shop all goes on
Dennis Agajanian.com -DAConcerts December 23, 2010 04:08 PM
This is sad. I admire Paul Jr. He is the one who has designed and made OCC what it is today. Paul Jr. Talents. His mind. The gift that God gave Him. Paul Jr. respects the Lord. He has integrity. Common since. He is a man to be trusted in any business. Keep up the good work Paul Jr. Keep the Faith. Dennis Agajanian.com
patmoore -housewife/commentatorI December 22, 2010 06:17 PM
It is so sad and so very discussing to see Paul Sr. continue to make a complete fool of himself. He is so full of himself that there is no room for anyone or anything other than himself. Pity the old man and if he wasn't signing the paychecks for the staff I honestly believe that they would leave. Shame on you Paul Sr. Take a long hard look in the mirror.
Matt -Dysfunctional Combination. December 22, 2010 05:26 PM
I think all of the Teutuls (except for the daughter) are good examples of why family, business, money, and lawyers are a very dysfunctional combination.
SKIP T -UN BELEAVABEL December 22, 2010 02:50 PM
i can not beleive that SR. can try and screw over his son like this or treat his kids the way he is and its just descusting JR is a grate desiner even tho im more of an old school kinda guy he has one hell of an amaginaiton some of the custum desingns he coms up with are just amasing SR just runs JR down becouse he cat do what JR can
Tony Van -Jealous of your own children. December 22, 2010 02:38 PM
Paul and Vinnie make the best bikes,the old man is trash and so is his bikes,get over it Senior the kids are better than u at everything.!!!!!
Nick -thickness December 22, 2010 11:32 AM
blood is thicker than water
money is thicker than blood
Paul Sr.'s head is thicker than anything
graham -lwrdr49 December 22, 2010 07:31 AM
whoever said "money is the root of all evil" said the most profound statement of all time! fame and fortune has ruined the teutal family. they really need to resolve this whole matter before it's to late.
Oliver -All publicity is good publicity December 21, 2010 09:27 PM
Sounds like they both have good publicists.
YAWN -YAWN December 21, 2010 03:50 PM
YAWN
West Coast Viewer... -Senior... December 21, 2010 02:37 PM
Senior wasn't around when the kids were growing up so why would he care if he's in their lifes now. His dog was his love and only son. I love animals but my kids come first. This guy (Senior) is innorante and selfish. Jr's are are better designed and instead of being proud of him he's jelouse of him....
Jr. -A PJD fan December 21, 2010 12:18 PM
It's ashame that Paul Sr. loves his dog more then his kids! Paul Sr is a jerk to put his kids down in public and to his employees, and what he did this past monday, sending a look a like of himself to his son's shop show what kind of a man he is, a jerk.
kevin -court system sucks December 21, 2010 10:00 AM
What I want to know is why the lower court couldn't make the right ruling the first go round? Or did the Appellate Division of the Supreme Court of New York make the wrong ruling the second time around? Is our legal system that incapable?
david -bikes December 20, 2010 08:38 PM
the old man has a lot to learn from JR about manners and respect, life is not about who has bigger toys.....
Christian Heller -Hope they can resolve their issues December 20, 2010 08:16 PM
In a recent e-mail to Paul Sr. I noted that my son Christian who was just a goofy as Sr.'s son Mickey had passed away after being paralyzed. I also noted something to the effect of "Cherish every moment, you never know when it's over". My son, even afer being paralyzed by a drunk driver said "You know Dad, money does not last. I can always make more somehow. If I lose something, I can replace it. I can't replace you Dad, I love you". My son died over three years ago. I miss him daily. So I hope these guys can put the darn money aside and work on being Father and Sons.
Sorry for being a bit mushy with my comment. It's reality though.
JD Kerb -Backstabber December 20, 2010 07:03 PM
What a bunch of BS, Senior stabs Paulie in the back every time he gets a chance or puts him down. Theres never a positive thing said about Paulie ever, what an a**hole. Maybe he will burn in he**. The best bikes in the showroom were built by Paulie and Vinnie. The rest look like they come off the assembly line. There ya have it....... Get over yer ego Senior and take of yer kids as well, be a man.
Rich Budelier -Adams and Main December 20, 2010 02:05 PM
I'm afraid that public infatuation with the Teutal's peaked a couple of seasons ago and they and their products and the drama surrounding OCC is a precursor to a big yawn. Maybe they could entice the American Pickers to come to their headquarters and bid on the now silent tooling and machinery. It would be interesting to see those two weasels try to low ball Mr. Teutal, just like they do when they when they raid some geriatric farmer's garage.
MotoMatt -back marker December 20, 2010 11:36 AM
Remember, blood is thicker than water and money is thicker than blood!