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Lead Ban Stops Youth ATV and Motorcycle Sales

Monday, February 2, 2009
(Important CPSC Ruling Update: The Consumer Product Safety Commission voted on April 3 to grant a one-year stay of enforcement on the lead ban that has outlawed youth OHV sales. [CPSC Chair Votes to Delay Lead Ban]. The stay of enforcement is due in no small part to the lobbying efforts of industry organizations and the letters of concerned riders to their legislators. The fight is not over, however, and riders should still encourage lawmakers to pass legislation that exemps OHV models from the Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act lead restrictions.)

A deadline is fast approaching on February 10 that could potentially be deadly for the youth motorcycle and ATV market. In less than two weeks, the Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act of 2008, enacted August 14 of last year, will go into effect and ban all products designed for children ages 12 or under which contain lead over specified limits. The Specialty Vehicle Institute of America and Motorcycle Industry Council are attempting to get an exemption for ATV and motorcycle parts.

(Read the sidebar to see how you can help.)

Youth motorcycles and ATVs are included in the Act and OEMs will have to comply with testing and manufacturing regulations.
Regulations are outlined under Title I of the Act and sets the lead limit at “600 parts per million total lead content by weight for any part of the product.” That limit will drop to 300 ppm one year after the date of enactment and 100 ppm three years after unless deemed technologically unfeasible.

The Act states that the CPSC will publish a rule providing guidance about a general exception for parts or components that are “not accessible to a child through normal and reasonably foreseeable use and abuse.” That description includes swallowing, mouthing, breaking, other children’s activity and product aging. We’re no lawyer firm, but his seems like a possible way for motorcycles and ATVs to find some relief, though delayed.

To find out exactly what that means, we sent a list of questions to Taryn Sanchez, Senior Media Coordinator for the MIC, and this is what the Council had to say.

What exactly happens on Feb 10 for motorcycle dealers?
"On February 10 large inventories of motorcycle and ATV products that present no health risk to children could be rendered retroactively illegal and future products prohibited from sale. These products may need to be destroyed resulting in severe hardship for dealers and manufacturers in the motorcycle industry. Along with the current state of the economy, this may be a hit that dealers and manufacturers will not be able to recover from."

Can older models still be sold? Used bikes?
"New regulations will apply to all current inventory as well as future production at the commercial level."

Can replacement parts still be sold?
"No, replacement and aftermarket parts and accessories will be included in the ban."

Wheels are one of the possible target areas to contain lead. Manufacturers will have to fully test their machines in order to meet the tightening restrictions.
What components contain the lead?
"Motorcycle and ATV components containing lead Include Lead battery terminals, tire valve stems, fittings and connectors made with brass or copper alloys, brake and clutch levers, throttle controls, engine housings, carburetors made with aluminum alloys, steel fasteners, and frames or structural components made with steel alloys."

What are the OEMs doing to combat this?
"MIC and SVIA, along with member company manufacturers, filed a petition for temporary exclusion of motorcycle and ATV products from the new lead regulations. We strongly encourage all stakeholders, dealers, and enthusiasts to support our petition by contacting the CPSC and their respective Members of Congress urging them to enact these temporary exclusions."

How long will an appeal process take if the ban sticks on Feb 10? How long before kid bikes can potentially be sold again?
"There is no current timeline for petitions for permanent exclusions. If the temporary exclusions are not granted, it could be several months before any further action to petition permanent exclusions can commence."

All of the Big Five manufacturers make a significant portion of their sales in the youth bracket. Can you imagine life without the Honda CRF50? Not only that but the 70, 80 and 100. Kawasaki’s ultra-popular KLX110 and the KX65, the only competition for KTM’s 65SX. Let’s not even get into the Orange lineup. The Austrian brand, which already escaped the beef-related ban, has more goodies to entice kids than Michael Jackson. The Boys in Blue have a wide-ranging TT-R lineup and Suzuki offers mini bikes and quads also.

Will backyard racing become a pastime solely for adults?
“From this point on all products will need to be tested and certified,” says Suzuki Communication Manager, Glen Hansen. “Some of the stuff that may include traces of lead would the wheels, as it helps provide a good seal for the tires, and maybe possible some of the other metals, I’m not totally sure. Though none of it could be ingested and it’s in such small levels that it would never affect children.”

Keeping lead away from children is certainly a worthwhile concern which no industry bigwig or enthusiast parent will argue. However, unless lawmakers take a realistic look at the nature of ATVs and motorcycles, this blanket policy will be extremely disruptive in our already unstable economy. Obviously, losing the ability to sell motorcycles and ATVs to youths would be devastating, at least until the OEs can re-engineer the equipment to pass standards.

Yamaha National Communications Manager, Bob Starr explains Yamaha’s approach like this. “We at Yamaha sent a release to our dealers this week asking them to stop selling any current or old TT-R50, TW50 and Raptor 50 models after February 10th when the law takes effect. Anything currently in the pipeline for those models will not be allowed to be sold after that date. We are seeking to get compliance for those models in the future. Also, as of February 10th, hang-tags and labels will be placed on all PW80, TT-R90, TT-R110, YZ85, Raptor 80, Raptor 90 and Grizzly 80 models explaining that are not for use by children under the age of 12 and production will continue on those as normal. We have our legal department doing all they can, but we need to comply with the law and ask the dealers do so as well.”

Help keep our kids involved. Send your letter to as many legislators as you can.
Make sure to use the sidebar and write your own letter to the CPSC. You can also research your state and local representatives' contact info and send them the same letter. If you don't already know how to contact your reps, use the following websites to find your state legislators and bookmark them for when the next issue arises.

- US Congress Directory
US House of Representatives Member Directory 

US Senate Member Directory 

Official US Government Website 
Write Your Own Letter
We all know that our kids aren’t out in the garage chewing on engine cases. Help the MIC, SVIA and OEMs by giving input on this topic to local, state and national legislators. The quickest and easiest way to make your voice heard is to follow these instructions.
1. Copy the text below.

As a concerned motorized outdoor recreationist, I am writing to ask that you support the exemption of motorcycle and ATVs from the Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act of 2008.

The dangers of lead to children cannot be ignored, but the normal use of motorcycles and ATVs pose no threat. Unnecessarily including this equipment under the Act will increase the amount of stress on not only the manufacturers, but local businesses across the nation. Debilitating these businesses further may cause irreparable damage in this challenging economy. The youth market is the foundation of our sport, and continuing to build and support that base is a top priority for OHV businesses and enthusiasts. With this in mind, please support an amendment of CPSC Act of 2008 to remove or exempt motorcycles and ATVs from the ban guidelines.


2. Click on this link

3. Fill out the four required information boxes and paste the text into the message box. Add your signature.

4. Enter “safety” in the confirmation box and click “Submit”
Malcolm Smith Defies CPSC Lead Ban
Malcolm Smith
One rider who wasn't waiting for the CPSC Lead Ban stay of enforcement was off-road motorcycle icon Malcolm Smith. The On Any Sunday star and Baja 1000 legend openly defied the CPSC with his Kids Love 2 Ride protest, where he sold outlawed OHV models to industry celebs like Troy Lee, Jeff Ward and Jeremy McGrath.

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Zach Eames -WTF WTF WTF WTF  January 12, 2011 02:36 PM
I don't think that people realize what kind of impact this sport has on the economy. as if it wasn't bad enough. Most of the people who ride dirt bikes are kids, and if you take that away then just see where the economy goes from there. Besides kids who ride dirt bikes or do any other sport usually have a higher GPA and they have better decision making skills. Remember when in the 50's the kids would be able to go out and play all day and their parents didn't care, as long as they were back by supper. what happened to that America, the great America that people want it to go back to, the reason why people come from all over the world. But when they get here they will just be disappointed. Besides have you ever seen a kid chewing on their bike. for Christ sake!
Octo-Mom -Keep kids away from everything  September 26, 2010 05:33 AM
I am a concerned mother. I don't have any kids yet, but I would like to have lots of kids someday, maybe 16. But kids on dirt bikes is a bad idea. When I have kids, I plan to keep them away from everything, including sugar, rock music, drugs, and minorities. Millions of kids are killed every year by dirt bikes. They fall off and then they die. I've read about it at least 50 times myself. Plus they contain lead and uranium and other toxic chemicals which are seeping into our drinking water. Dirt bikes also cause cancer. Every kid who doesn't die from falling off a dirt bike will die from cancer. The remainder will become gay and try to join the military, which will ruin our nation's defense, which is another reason to ban dirt bikes.
Bradc -This law needs to be stopped!  April 20, 2010 10:29 AM
R666 this law has nothing to do with kids causing a freeway pile up its for kids younger then 12 and i don't see kids under 12 with dirt bikes riding on the freeway. I have been riding dirt bikes since I was 5 and I know you really cant be stupid on a dirt bike or you will get hurt. The parents should be responsible and tell the kid to stop chewing on the god damn wheel or battery and not have EVERY kid who isn't a complete retard suffer. If anything this ban is going to make things even more dangerous because then kids wont have the CRF 50s or 65 no they have to go to 125s and 250 at 5-12 years old if they still want to ride.
Dawson Guzik -banning youth motocross cause of lead  April 6, 2010 05:04 AM
If they ban youth motocross you know how many little kids will be mad. They won't have anything to do.
ATV4EVERYONE -ATV BAN  January 24, 2010 07:39 PM
Okay. In the sake of science, lets look at some stats. Approximately 900 deaths were reported involving ATV's. There are over 8.6 million active ATV riders. That make a probabiity of less than 0.001 percent in being involved in a fatal ATV accident. Out of those number, only about 20% of those accidents involve children. Well, it doesn't take a PHD to figure out the ATV riding is statistically safer that bike riding or riding in a car by far. The probability of getting into a bike accident or car accident is much higher. So, in reality, do we ban our kids from car rides and bike riding. Hmm. For those who are still questioning it, read the stats on all three. Surprise. As far as the lead goes. I seen drinking water with higher lead concentrations that passed than what they are calling for. OMG. It is a mechanical machine. Wait, the schoold desks are probably made in china along with most other school supplies. Must ban kids from school now, to much lead content in a pencil. Wake up america. You just make sure the kid knows not to eat the pencil, or the school desk, or in this case, the atv. Maybe it just me, but the kid might be to occupied riding the atv to think about riding eat. Oh, for those who can't think for themselves and beleive what every politician tells them, I have a PHD in Biochemistry.
rider -John Irish? carbon footprint  January 21, 2010 08:07 AM
Okay lets compare the number of offroad motorcycles and ATV's to the number of cars out on the road. Your an idiot. One of the most fuel efficient gasoline powered vehicle on the road today is the motorcycle. So don't present your carbon foot print bull on this web site, link your IGNORANCE over to the hummer web page.

thanks though.
dingodave -send lawyers guns and money  November 12, 2009 11:39 AM
As a kid I used to pack lead .177 air rifle pellets in my mouth.
Cut my teeth so to speak melting old lead tire balancing weights and casting wadcutters mostly .45 cal for target pistols.
Working the motorcycle industry when lead was everywhere including fuels,
I earned the highest 'certification' available in my country, as a bike mechanic, and am also a gov't certified motor vehicle inspector.
Now over 50 I am so 'handicapt' all I can do is service, build and ride awesome motorcycles and teach kids to ski. (love my life)

Perhaps the government could have 'saved' me so I might have amounted to something more. Like a voter, or participant in their ways, which I am not...still.

At the end of my day I can only hope somebody saved me a cool road pop!
Like my dear ol dad used to say often...

Stockpile weapons and ammo. Shoot well. The targets will be a plenty sonny boy. When in doubt, takem out.
corey marchand -let people ride!!!!!!  September 3, 2009 02:05 PM
let kids enjoy life, life is to short to worry about these kinds of things. cops need to get a life and let dirtbikers ride. let the kids have fun while they can. like really!!!!!!!
John Detwiler -Asinine law, but potentially ONE good effect?  August 22, 2009 06:10 PM
Many before me have explained the idiocy of this law so well, I don't need to address it further, other than to concur that it is a criminally stupid law. However, there may be a blessing in it. What about the market for used bikes? Can parts still be purchased for them? When I was a kid, I rode garbage machines, some of them assembled from junkers. It taught me a great deal, like how to be a good mechanic, to appreciate quality and engineering, to be a better rider (because I HAD to be to keep up with the new machines.) I raced a '75 YZ80 which had 4.5HP stock against the new CR80s with 16HP stock when they came out in 1980. That was an impossible situation. But I bet a 1980 CR80 could compete with a 2009 80cc bike today, and the difference wouldn't be anywhere near that much. I still had fun on the old bikes, and it was thrilling to me. Then, when I could afford modern hardware, I was pretty much unstoppable. (I'm not saying I could hang with national pros, but I was near the top in Amateurs.) Check out what Jeff Ward started out on! When you're given lemons, make lemonade.
danielberwald -stupid  August 13, 2009 08:27 AM
this is retarded you get a kid started riding and now they cant ride no more wat is wrong with the government. i thought this was a free country lets start a riot
Felicia -Small kids on adult bikes  August 12, 2009 02:44 PM
Now that small atv's are not available for my youngest son, I will have to buy him an adult 250 model at 7 years old. Thats really the way to go America!!! I know my child can handle one, but there are many others that will get hurt. Many thanks to our Safety Commission.
Russ -BAN  August 7, 2009 11:35 PM
cant people just get their parts online instead of local dealer as i always order online parts for my off brand wheelers for the kids (no sence in wrecking a 2000.00 machine when they can learn the basics on a off brand for 495) I still get my parts online, is that illegal? My daughter enjoys the family riding get togethers and nothing is going to stop me. Craigslist-ebay and any number of other sites and private sellers can keep the riding available. RIDE ON BUY ANY MEANS NESSECERY!!
J -What?  August 1, 2009 08:40 PM
What is this? This ban is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. I haven't heard of one person EVER that likes to eat their motorcycles.
Get-The-Lead-Out -people's crap!!!  July 1, 2009 08:44 AM
Very interesting!!! I have read it all on this site!! Take back your country!!! This is stupid!!! Kids don’t chew on brake levers, to fishing weights, etc. Part of taking back your Country is not buying this junk from foreign countries in the first place. And if you do you need to regulate their asses so this very thing doesn’t happen. They can’t get rid of the lead in their own country so they pump it into everything they manufacture and send it here to the good ole USA. Our dumb asses keep buying this stuff. You can’t even buy pet food from these countries without deadly chemicals being put into it. Same thing with baby formula. Seriously what makes you think there would be any difference between pet food, baby formula or Honda-50. You may not think that lead is a big issue because your kid wont be in the garage chowing down on a break lever or a fender and if they did then you have bigger concerns outside the scope of this forum. What happens when they decide to start sanding it down with Dad to paint it and inhale the dust or something of that nature?? Guess what your kids will DIE!!! Have you ever known anyone who has been lead poisoned? It’s horrible and often times very difficult to find the source. The effects are life long and generally will cause other major health issues. Most people these days do not posses enough intellect or common sense to see beyond their own ignorance, stupidity, hatred and greed!! In addition they all want to prosper without doing any work. Basically you all want the decision being made for you while you sit back and live well!! Food for thought people the more you rely on the Government to make decisions the less freedom you have. Last time I checked freedom isn’t free and we are always only one generation away from losing it!! I keep hearing how everything is so bad and our children have nothing to do and nowhere to go because its all being taken away!! Here's an idea stop making more worthless children and take the time to raise them, rather than relying on everyone else to solve your problems. Don’t let the Xbox-360 and Grand-Theft Auto raise your children. Oh and another thing stop sending them to school as a form of cheap day care!! I was born with wheels and have ridden all of my life!! Times were so different then and when we couldn’t ride. It really wasn’t the end of the world folks!! There were many other things that we where involved with that shaped our lives. Do the right thing now and save your children. As an endnote think of the Government as children, your very own perhaps. You are the parent go plant your foot in some asses and start dishing out some good old fashioned ass whoopings so they can see just who’s in charge!! Screw the government!!
South Bay Guy -Progression somthing you know nothing about!  June 9, 2009 04:27 PM
This is to R666 - oh the people's ignorance So let me guess you’re the kind of guy that watched Xgams ones went out and bought all new gear and a new bike, fell trying to get the bike stared. Then got on the track and got worked and ran over. Right at that point you started thinks to yourself “I don’t understand why the guys on TV can do and I can’t” It’s mainly because you’re a poser. When they realize that that suck at what you really wanted to be good at (at that time), you posers almost always turn on it and start to bash it. What you can’t seem to grasp is that kids are what determine the where progression of any sport ends up. You can get most things in life handed to you by your daddy, but skill is something you learn as you grow up. Which I’m sure you nothing about.
R666 -oh the people's ignorance...  June 7, 2009 12:59 PM
to be VERY honest, If you're that great at riding, a few years pushed back won't change if you're good or not. Once a crap rider, always a crap rider. Keep the ban, it works and protects. Those who said it "inspires" and gives "confidence" to their young ones obviously don't know what they're talking about. You're either a pussy at heart, or you know what you're doing. Not everyone is a well balanced person, which is needed for riding. In fact, I would easily say that 15-35% of our total population in this world is actually capable of such executed things, in order, and with close to perfection. About 5% of those are actually riding this moment. What ever happened to sports? Your child can't play football? can't swim? Your child MUST be a handicapped person if not capable of that. Sports are a much better way of introducing the same qualities that you -may- or -may not- learn from riding motorcycles. 80% of riders I see riding around don't know what they're doing. Keep them off the streets please. This world doesn't really have room for those who would like to ride motorcycles, we have room for those who KNOW how to ride motorcycles. You really want your kid causing that big ass freeway pile up because he was too cocky and wanted to pop a wheelie? I sure don't ;)
d court -.  May 28, 2009 09:17 AM
this is stupied what if i want to go out and buy a klx 110 to turn it into a pit bike
Dale -Go Fishing Instead  May 25, 2009 07:46 PM
Maybe we should just take our kids fishing. While fishing the kids can handle all the lead sinkers and lures they desire. They can use their teeth to pinch the weights onto their line. At the end of the day they can even leave them behind to sit in your local drinking water lake for ever. This is considered good family fun.
jd -kids motorcycle ban  May 17, 2009 09:39 AM
Ihave a great plan lets all sit in front of our computer and gripe about this ban and wonder why the goverment has taken over our life we put them in, if they dont do what we want then throw them out and put people in office that will do what the people want not what big money tells them to . take back your country or just sit around and wonder why
Goodspeed -The CPSC has no authority  May 14, 2009 11:42 AM
Everyone check this out!!!! The Consumer Product Safety Commission has on their very own website that they have no governing authority over motor vehicles including motorcycles: Check out the following link and look into the yellow area at the middle of the page. http://www.cpsc.gov/talk.html
brandon -y  May 12, 2009 10:03 AM
y what kid is going to go chew on a brake lever clutch lever what ever has lead what child would and even if they did their chewing on metal, metals kinda hard and i dont think u can just digest metal but thats just me
Goodspeed -Government at it BEST  May 10, 2009 11:51 PM
This legislation kills me and has broken a 7 year old boys heart who has out grown his TTR-50. Common sense has become so un-common within our government we should call it un-common sense. We need to get control of our country. Our elected officials work for us, however they never represent the majority of there citizens. I will guess the better days are not ahead.
Stephani. -Seriously?  May 5, 2009 03:03 PM
This is dumb. Last time i checked kids werent eating there bike pegs. Its just a joke. I grew up around quads and around racing. Hey i turned out fine!!
Melanie H (Phx, Az) -Dumb!  May 4, 2009 01:58 AM
Why should we be punished for something the manufacturers did? Also, the last time I check... kids aren't eating their bikes. Any way, I hope this doesn't take effect. A lot of people are going to very pissed off.
John Smith -Gov. bans  May 1, 2009 10:42 AM
To all you Democraps out there who ride. We have a government that wants to ban the 2nd amendment, you think they give 2 *hits about the folks who like to ride, if they are willing to take the 2nd. I am a hunter, rider and outdoorsman. You know the slogan for the campaign was "CHANGE" so here you go you got it. Now you are complaining about it, because THE MAN is keeping you from doing what you want to do. Welcome the National Socialist States of America where we are to stupid to think for ourselves and need big brother to tells us what to do,eat,wear,drive,and read. Just remenber you can slow the tide of oppression in less than 2 years get out and vote if the CHANGE you got is incorrect.
Ace! -You're absolutely right  May 1, 2009 10:01 AM
There really isn't any reason kids should be going outside anyway. The sun causes cancer, the air is always getting worse. We should get them hooked on video games so they don't have to interact with other people, they can stay in their rooms and parents won't have to interact with them. Maybe someone can figure a way around it, like selling kits that parents have to put together. Maybe individually the parts wouldn't be considered kid-related.
2 Stroke Pot Smoke -Lead or Drugs?  April 30, 2009 02:59 PM
It's no big deal everybody, just introduce your kids to marijuana and they won't want anything to do with a bike, but be sure to keep plenty of munchies on hand or they will eat the bike.... Good job F**king government...this is a great way to keep kids off drugs....take away their toys
Ace! -ban the ban  April 29, 2009 03:26 PM
Do you have a learning disability, or do you just not care about your writing? I can understand making a spelling or grammatical mistake, but d*mn! you obviously had too much lead paint as a kid or you just don't give a sh*t. Don't give the other side more ammo, use spell check or something.
stop the ban -ban the ban  April 28, 2009 03:59 PM
i ride an 85cc and racing is my life. ive been riding since i was 4. i kno how mch fun kids have riding/racing. ths is my lifa and it is millions of other childrens life around the country. this bill is rediculas bcause no harm is done from riding a atv/motorcycle with lead in it. i have never herd of some one that was killed or even injured in any way from riding. if this bill is passed many lives will be changed in horrible ways. if kids cant ride they will hace lots of time time to be on the streets and this could lead to more children getting drugs and more gangs accumulating. if the gov is banning this because of the lead then why dont they ban school too because we wright with lead pencils.
Michael S. -Chewing on my dirtbike  April 27, 2009 04:49 PM
I am 9 years old and I've been riding since i was 3 yrs old. If you are smart enough to ride one your smart enough not to eat, lick, or chew on one. Does this mean I'm going to have my parts shipped from Japan?
Ace! -The "Stay"  April 26, 2009 12:54 PM
I guess we all know now about the "stay" of execution; however, what's it mean?
raptor350 -growing up and atv and dirt bikes  April 25, 2009 03:54 PM
i'v been riding for about 4 years now and this is sucks my younger bro can't get a bike now on and he wants to ride so bad. if younger kids get a 150cc or a 125cc and they don't know how to ride their going to get them self hert badly. it also herts the bike shops can't sell the bikes they have they just spent a crud lode of cash on bikes they can't sell that herts them. p.s. i'm 16 and that is what i say about that law.
Bob S -More bans  April 24, 2009 05:01 PM
bicycles have valve stems. Will they be next?
Ace! -Economic Impact  April 24, 2009 03:25 PM
The economy affected U.S. sales of new motorcycles in the first quarter of 2009, down a total of 30.5 percent, compared to the same period last year, among 12 of the leading brands. Generally affordable, fuel-efficient dual-purpose motorcycles declined the least, by 24 percent. The off-highway market went down the most, by 39.7 percent, some of which is linked to the government's ban on youth models due to a controversial new law regarding lead content in consumer products. -http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/2/3223/Motorcycle-Article/2009-Motorcycle-Sales-Plummet-1st-Quarter.aspx Is it hurting the economy, without a doubt. Is this the time we need layoffs and fewer sales, without a doubt, no.
Laura W -Toy ban  April 22, 2009 12:54 PM
Heres another kicker to this bill. All resale shops are no longer alowed to sell childrens toys that are designed to be marketed to children 12 and under. Nor are they allowed to sell any childrens clothing that have painted things on them or rhinestones, lace or any other thing that a child may put into their mouths. Its killing the resale industry. This is where the majority of their sales originate. The only way kids learn is from experience.
California Kid -What is their real intent?  April 20, 2009 09:45 AM
Thomas H Moore, a commissioner of the CSPC, appointed by Bill Clinton (D) said this in his recent brief on the subject of enforcement stay: "It is ironic that I am defending vehicles that I consider to be dangerous for children under 12 to ride and which contain accessible parts with excess levels of lead. However, the alternatives appear to be more dangerous. American parents seem to be willing to accept the risk for their children riding these vehicles, so it is the agency's task, at this stage, to ensure that the vehicles are as safe as possible." Notice his statement "at this stage". The Left-wingers want to eventually ban OHVs all together, and this is why the are dragging their feet on this. Do you really thing Obama is any different in his views then Clinton was? It is naive and dangerous for off roaders to think that the current administartion is ignoring this simply because they are too busy solving the worlds problems.
Corn-fed MXer -It's already happening  April 20, 2009 09:21 AM
Suzuki has laid off 100 people in California and Georgia. KTM is making half of it's full time employees employees work part-time and who knows how the poor economy and stupid laws such as this are affecting small family own shops. Motorcycle shops and factories are hurting, so why kick them in the teeth while they are down? If the current goverment wanted to, it could stop this now, but my guess is they are not unhappy with the ban and there are enough people like kevin who will unconditionally defend them as rights are taken away and the economy is taken from a recession to a full scale depression.
R.J. Thomas -ban for motorcycles  April 20, 2009 08:47 AM
Why would you ban the motorcycles under 100cc i mean what if i had a son and i wanted to teach him how to ride one he can't learn on a 100cc or above and what about me!!!??? i mean im only 13 years old. and i have a 65cc bike and was getting ready to move upto a 85cc but now i cant now i have to get a freaking get a sucky 100cc and im to short for an 125cc so unband the motorcycles so i can buy my parts!!!
Cindy O -Respnse to Kevin F  April 20, 2009 08:24 AM
There are consequences to elections. The current administration does indeed have other "larger issues" to deal with other than saving jobs and small family owned businesses. This law is not only barring us from purchasing OHV for our kids, it is harming the motorcycle industry at a time they can not afford to weather such a hit. Estimated damage to the industry is up to a billion dollars. This loss will inevitably cause the loss of jobs. But whats a billion to a guy who casually spends trillions. I was angry ith George Bush for spending the way he did, but Obama comes in and quaduples the already out of hand debt in so many weeks. Scary, but I can't expect the drones who salivate over "hope and change" propaganda to understand the bigger mess we are in until it is their job that disappears. The motorcyle industry need relief now, no six months from now after Obama and congress have settled their other "larger issues" like ramming european style socialism down the Amerixcan peoples throats. This isn't just about that we can't buy our kids an ATV right now, it is itself a "large Issue" in the job losses and further decline of our economy if not rectified immediately.
ryan -tjhis  April 20, 2009 05:37 AM
is dumb
kevin f. -Response to Cindy O.  April 19, 2009 08:35 AM
I believe the President is working on some other very large issues confronting the nation at this point and I am pretty sure childrens ATV sales is not on his top 5, and in case you dont see the news he is not sitting idle. I am dissapointed that I am unable to purchase an ATV for my son to begin riding but I am not blaming anyone, it is the nature of politics. We will get our reprieve from the ban and move forward but remember this ban was not drafted with ATV parts in mind. It was drafted as "toy" legislation for bigger issues with companies such as Hasbro and Fisher Price bringing their toys from overseas with high levels of lead content which do get ingested by our children. So I say all of that to say this...enjoy your tea party and be sure and lick some lead ATV parts as soon as possible, you will be doing us all a big favor...
AmyE Motomom -Gary Get A Grip  April 17, 2009 11:48 AM
Gary, this law was written for toys... The law did not take affect until this year. There was no thought that Motorcycles would be banned as ATV's and Bicycles were listed individually in the bill. The problem with the current administration is that they could release the ban on the Motorcycles in a a short period of time by giving the exemption that was filed immediately. The current admin. wants the ban. The funny part is that a motorcycle cannot be chewed, masticated, or mouthed... The same components are in 1/4 midgits which are specifically marketed for kids. They aren't listed in the bill... Hell, you kid stands a better chance of getting lead from your own windowsills, sporting equipment, and the desk at school but they are exempted...
Eddie Saunders -Weed Out the dumb ones  April 16, 2009 04:45 PM
Jeez, Gary Learn to spell. Maybe its not a bad idea to not have draconion safety laws like the lead ban. Only an ignoramous is going to suck on a valve stem. Get rid of the never ending safety warning and laws intended to "save" us from our own stupidity. It might take the dim bulbs out of the gene pool.
Ian Robison -I agree with Cindy!  April 16, 2009 04:34 PM
Bush lit the match to government growth, but this new crowd of thieves have thrown gasoline on the flames and its getting out of hand. It was that nut-bird Harry Reid (D) that pushed in a very under handed way the Omnibus land closures. As for the lead ban I don't believe Obama even bothered to vote one way or the other on it. He was too busy promoting his library of self indulgent autobiographies. Just like he is too pre-occupied with ramming socialism down our throats to help reverse a bad law. LET THE KIDS RIDE!!! SAY NO TO THE NANNY-STATE!
Cindy Ortega -Response to Gary Gitt  April 16, 2009 02:32 PM
It is true that former President George Bush did sign this well intended but poorly written bill into law. But the "blame it on the last eight years mantra" won't cut it anymore, at least not with me. Obama is the head honcho now and what has he done or said to rectify this. If he is truly concerned about the economy, why does he sit idle and silent while many family owned motorcycle shops suffer? And yes I went to a Tea Party yesterday! The protests were as much about big government growing beyond the consent of the people as they were about taxation. Big government infringing on our personal freedoms with bans on OHVs and huge public land closures and God knows what else next. Stop drinking the "change and hope Kool-aid and wake up America!
Dandre -join a dirtbike club  April 15, 2009 09:09 PM
I would like to join a dirtbike club
Gary Gitt -Responce to the first post!!!  April 15, 2009 08:28 AM
Obama had nothing to do with this legeslation. The act was approved in August of 08. What the heck does the current presedent have to do with that?? Dumb!!!! I'm sure that your going to a tea party today. Ask yourself were you at tea parties every year for the last eight? All of a sudden Obama is taking away your kids raptor 50. You should have told your buddy Georgie to do something about it when it first surfaced in 08 when he was the presedent. Maybe then you could have done something about it.
Cody -ban  April 15, 2009 08:19 AM
I think the ban on youth bikes is ridiculous, KIDS DON'T EAT MOTORCYCLES!
Cal City Chick!! -Kids ATV Ban!!  April 14, 2009 01:31 PM
My 2 daughters ages 8 & 6 and they have a Yamaha 50 Raptor & an 80 Raptor. They have been riding since they were 4 & 6. My husband & myself have been riding since we were youngsters as well. (We're both in our 40's) This is absolutely RIDICULOUS!! I didn't vote for Obama & this is the reason why! Everything we love is QUICKLY being taken away from us. What we get in return is more taxes, more rules & less freedoms. The idiot who said in an earlier comment to give our kids the video game version of motocross riding because it's safer is the exact reason why our country, freedoms and economy are in complete shambles!! WAKE UP AMERICA! We need to protect our freedoms, rights & pleasures for our families and our CHILDREN! I know that there is not one child out there chewing on a battery terminal or throttle control. My kids don't want to eat their quads, they want to RIDE them, enjoy them and enjoy them as a FAMILY! Does anyone remember what a family is? It's not sitting our kids in front a frigging TV and letting them stare at a virtual screen, all the while popping Cheetos & Pepsi down their throats! God forbid any child nowadays to get outside & get excercise!! Write letters, scream from the mountaintops that we are not going to take this crap anymore. And for any of you who voted for that stupid TERRORIST to become our president...SHAME ON YOU AND DON'T EVEN TRY TO COMPLAIN NOW...IT'S TOO LATE!! THIS COUNTRY IS BECOMING A HERD OF SHEEP...WE NEED SOME MORE WOLVES!! Where do I sign?? This ban needs to be overturned and our kids deserve their bikes back! Let's do what we can to give them what they deserve!!
Chupa -Kid's small bike ban  April 13, 2009 07:20 PM
This is a good piece of legislation and our congressmen should all give themselves a good hearty pat on the back - much like they did after the first bail-out bill. The governments duty is to protect its citizens from any and all dangers. The foiled AlQueda's plan to entice our youth to start eating their small CC cycles and ingesting the dangerous lead. This will have the net effect of protecting untold millions of children from a horrible fate. Youngsters do not need to ride these small CC cycles and share memorable weekends with their parents and friends that they will remember fondly throughout their lives, instead they can buy and play one of many wonderful video games that are just as good as the real thing - only safer!
vicki -ban  April 13, 2009 07:07 PM
this is foolish what are we trying to do ruin the economy a little more just think of all the stock that people have that they cant sell and thats a waste of money to there buisness. also come on i dont think any child is going to be chewing on valve stems or any part on the atv
TG - Do something now before our freedoms are gone forever  April 13, 2009 04:02 PM
Ban this Ban that, it's big nanny-state government run amok! Is this really the change everybody asked for or did the country get a bait and switch by a smooth talking used car salesman. How do we fight this? Let them know we won't sit by idle while they seek to control all aspects of our lives. They are supposed to be working for us. A good start are the Tea Parties scheduled for April 15th, find one in your area. Then mid-term elections. If a message isn't sent then you can kiss all of our freedoms goodbye, and not just our motorcycling passions.
JiNxX -I'm not even a motorcycle enthusiast  April 12, 2009 11:57 PM
and I can't believe they would consider lumping dirtbikes and ATVs into this act. to John Irish and his ilk: it's not the government's responsibility to protect kids, it's the responsibility of the parents... and if the government was concerned about pollution, we'd all be driving electric cars. to everyone else: I wrote my own message for Commissioner Nord (thanks to TS for the link), feel free to copy my text if you like. -- Dear Commissioner Nord, I urge you and the CPSC to amend the Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act to exclude youth ATV and motorcycles from this product ban. Lead is indeed a hazardous material, but when used safely and under supervision, youth ATVs and motorcycles pose no more threat of lead poisoning to children than riding in a parent's car. In addition, the enthusiasm in youngsters for off-road motor vehicles forms the foundation of a hugely popular family of motor sports, sports in which the rising stars are true role models, many of whom are lucky to have started their journeys to greatness long before the age of 12. Allowing this act to stand unchanged will do more damage to our youth than lead ever will. Please don't let that happen. Sincerely, (my name)
dennis -ban  April 12, 2009 09:06 PM
My dad gave me my first ride at 7 months and now I'm almost 31. I've been riding ever since. Now I'm the dad with a 3 and a 1 year old and both love to ride with me. The government needs to realize they don't know s**t and remove the ban so that parents and kids can get out of the house and away from the tv and video games and go riding. There's nothing like it!
CS-BuffNY -(sigh)... I can't wait 'till their generation dies off and stops screwing things up for us...  April 10, 2009 04:09 PM
Once upon a time, there was a Great Nation, full of values, freedom, and common sense. Thanks again to our government for giving the world yet ANOTHER reason to look upon us as ignorant fools -Ignorance is bliss!!! I'm starting to think our law makers ate the brown acid... NANCY NORD, Maybe then you'll think rationally????
Johnn -Ban  April 10, 2009 09:17 AM
we need our children to ride at those young ages so it gives them heart and courage to do anything they want to do in the future life!! UNDUE THE BAN ON YOUTH BIKKES AND ATVS!!
Mike -Ban  April 9, 2009 10:43 PM
What happened to this country? It seems like you cant do anything without the government telling you what to do. I grew up riding dirt bikes and it let me and my dad become as close as we are today. I cant imagine what my life would be like now if i had never been allowed to ride. With people like this making the rules its no wonder the U.S is in the crapper.
Michigan Mike -Update on the ban  April 8, 2009 06:28 PM
I don't know if you noticed the update at the beginning of the article above, but there's been a 1 year reprieve on enforcement of this ban. -But as the update says, "The fight is not over!" We want to keep after the politicians to change the law so it will totally exempt these kids bikes, not just put it off for a year. Check out www.MotoChamps.com for more info.
deryl c -this is stupid  April 8, 2009 06:03 PM
they talk about kids not being active enough anymore that all they do is play video games. Sure lets take somethig else away from the kids so they can just sit in front of the TV all day.
Loyal Rider -WOW  April 8, 2009 03:44 PM
This is the first time I heard of the new law regarding lead in kids dirt bikes. Let alone in children's books, who knew Doctor Sues would need a doctor. What a joke. My children LOVE to ride their bikes. We go out often as a family and enjoy every minute of it. I can not believe that this law even passed. No child would chew on any bike part. This is in the top ten of dumb laws that should have never been passed. If there is such a lead problem and our kids are eating it, then just make the manufactures fix the issue. Don't ban the bikes completely. That solves nothing. Takes money out of the economy and takes away from a lot of family fun. Bikes are only as safe as the rider. Accidents happen, but everyone is responsible to ride with the proper gear and pay attention to what surrounds them. Remember the good old saying: Stupid is as stupid does.
Daron -If your Kid  April 6, 2009 09:26 AM
If your kid licks the valve stem of a atv.... he's not a redneck.... he's retarded. At which point lead poisoning cannot possibly do further harm.
Rebecca -Kids cant be themselves anymore....WTF  April 4, 2009 09:10 PM
You know since they are baning motorcycles cause of lead, that means they can't fish (sinker are all lead), can't do yard work (weed eater and lawn mowers have lead), can't listen to a radio (more lead), ride in a car (lead), what else is there left for them to do? Oh I know lets get in trouble, do drugs, drink beer, have kids, come on be for real. I started riding when I was 3 years old and I still ride. My kids ride, and I be god damn if I will make them stop doing something they love to do. Remember the saying you can do anything in life if you just follow your dreams. They will have to take me to jail before I get rid of my kids bikes. Does any one know of a child that can HONESTLY say they got lead poision from their motorcycle. I think the Gov. is making us go into depression.
Jim Deckard -Lean Band  April 3, 2009 06:13 AM
Get your head out of your b*** and let these kids ride, they are not going to lick the bike and their parts. There are a lot of other things that could harm them and this is keeping tnem form those other harmful things in this world.
Paula Deckard -Lead Ban Stops Youth ATV and Motorcycle Sales  April 3, 2009 06:10 AM
this is crazy, just like Jen said the kids are not licking the bikes or their parts.
Michigan Mike -Overturn the ban  April 2, 2009 08:48 PM
I just noticed that T.S. gave a web address for the bureaucrats at CPSC, so I've added it to my website (MotoChamps.com). I'll try to keep this a 1-stop site for people who want to help. Check it out!
Bard -Motorcycle ban  April 2, 2009 07:26 PM
Why are people doing this. Its just going to hurt our econemy even more.If we get beat 424 to 1... we need to do a better job at taking a stand. I also want to know who is having their kids suck on motorcycle parts. Kids need to be able to ride because if we dont we wont have future Motorcross. If we cant buy parts what will we do if we break a part... NOTHING SO STOP THE BAN!!!
Bard -Motorcycle ban  April 2, 2009 07:25 PM
Why are people doing this. Its just going to hurt our econemy even more.If we get beat 424 to 1... we need to do a better job at taking a stand. I also want to know who is having their kids suck on motorcycle parts. Kids need to be able to ride because if we dont we wont have future Motorcross. If we cant buy parts what will we do if we break a part... NOTHING SO STOP THE BAN!!!
Bren --motorcycle ban  April 2, 2009 07:15 PM
Everyone is just going to jump on the bandwagon and pile on Bush, Obama, etc. The real issue is in our house. 424 to 1 ! and in the senate 89 to 3. These numbers represent our senators and our represenatives. Whoever that 1 was who voted against it in the house should get a huge pat on the back for doing the right thing. I would venture to guess that even if every person writes their senators, and represenatives, the law will make no difference to us. Japan will continue making the parts, and us americans will start buying these parts on a "black market". Writing to our reps and senators will give us all a fighting chance at shooting down the law before it really starts to put us in a pickle. I sure hope that all those politicians sitting in big fancy leather chairs in multi million dollar homes, smokin big cubans every night will wake up and come to their senses before we need to put 110/100-18 tracks all over their lawns and get in their faces about it. My local shop hasnt given a hoot about it yet, and wont until forced into doing so, so those losers that are oblivious to what they are doing here need to wake up and smell the roses. IF THIS IS WHAT "CHANGE" REALLY MEANT THEN EUROPE HERE I COME!
DallasC -Lead ban  April 2, 2009 07:30 AM
It all starts with we the people, not we the goverment. Im sure most of the complanning party here were the same ones that sent these LIbrals to Washington. Think before you vote. We still have the right to vote and my friends its not going to get any better. It up to the people for change, not THE GOV!!!!!!!!
Canadian Friend -Youth motorcycle ban  April 2, 2009 12:00 AM
I just found out about this ban on youth motorcycles and nearly fell off my chair. This has to be the most misguided law I've ever heard of. There is no such ban in Canada,so for those of you near the border you will be able to come here and get the parts you need. I don't know what the law is regarding taking the parts back across the border is so you should check that. The best solution is to get an excemption to the law so parents and they're kids can continue to enjoy the sport we all love. I will be sending e-mails to your government officials explaining to them just how dumb they look in our eyes and ask them to give this a second look and reconsider the impact this will have on business and familys. Good luck with your fight for freedom and rights to make your own choices.
ChrisM -Dumb Government  April 1, 2009 09:42 AM
I heard this news from a friend at school, at first i thought he was just pulling my leg. untill i searched it on the internet and found out he wasnt joking. i cant believe our gov. is this dumb to take away dirtbikes and atvs from kids under 12 because it has a little lead in it. seriously the only way you can get sick from lead is having complete contact with it, like eating it, or licking it or soemthing. what kids sits there and licks his dirtbike or atv. NONE! thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard of. its our dumb Democrats and libs taking our stuff away little by little. and the poor little kids have no way to defend themselves, the gov. is taking things away from the weakest and pretty soon there gonna try to go bigger, and take away all ORVs.
TS -Come together and fight  March 31, 2009 10:22 AM
Here is the direct link to Nancy Nord. She is the ring leader of this fiasco.http://www.cpsc.gov/cgibin/commissionernord.aspx
matt -CPSC  March 31, 2009 09:06 AM
My advise contact them directly on there website. Also contact Nancy Nord directly. Flood there email servers with complaints.
mark vidro kent city mi. -people with to much time on their hands  March 30, 2009 03:18 PM
It sounds like whoever came up with this stupid ban on motorcycles and atv's has spent to much time indoors and not enough time outside. Any activity when a family can spend time outside together is important,but how many kids do you know have the thought to chew on a motorcycle or atv over riding it.Learning to ride a motorcycle or atv under adult supervistion is a great way to develop skills that will help them at a early age to understand how to use their motor skills , so when they are older and can purchase their own vehicle they are not going in to it blind. Anyone that rides and has kids that ride knows that this type of enjoyment keeps kids outside and well exercised, unlike video games or tv.
Jack Becker -Where does this all lead?  March 30, 2009 02:49 PM
Take a good hard look at The Peoples Republik of Kalifornia, and you'll get a good idea of where America is headed with all this frenzied government growth and need for absolute control in our lives. Here were are bankrupt because of excessive spending and so regulated and dictated to by the State government. Here we have "socialism lite" and it sucks. They have even (recently) proposed what color our cars can be painted. Can't have a black car lest we detroy the planet with global warming... or what's the new buzz word "Climate Change"? Since the earth is actually in a cooling trend and they can't refute that. Truth and facts never get in the way of regulation and control with these idiots. Both Political Parties are corrupt and have let us down, but the current ruling party with a fitting Jack-ass as a symbol is the worst and has elevated the government to a status above the people rather than for the people. Expect many more bans like the one we are fighting now, it how the liberal mind works. This is the reality that is California and with the neo-socialists now in complete control of the Fed, sadly the near future fate of the rest of the country.
jimbo122112 -i agree 100% with every one of you  March 29, 2009 03:59 PM
first they took the 3 wheelers away in 1987,im 34 and still ride 3 wheelers,im not dead ,still hear,im banned from some riding parks,because of my 3 wheeler,but just when i thought that was bad, they took the 2 strokes away,and now this.....we all came to age on these wonderful things with motors,and i love seeing my son on his 4traxs 70 just like the way my parents seen me back in the day,the gov is tearing us apart inch by inch, we need to take (our)country back,
TS -American sheep  March 28, 2009 10:24 PM
I'm sick and tired of Obama did this and Bush did that. If you don't like the politicians in office then speak up. Use your right as voters and do the reasearch in your elected officials. Stop being sheep and do something. This blog is great because it shows we still have free speech. Call your congressmen, senators, and anybody that votes. That means your neighbor, coworker, and anybody else that will listen. Yes I agree that our liberties have been slowly been eroded away. We have let them. I at least have let my voice be heard. As far as progress goes I have read that a lot of congress is on board with the youth atv exclusions, but the CPSC is the ones dragging their feet. The person you should direct your anger at is the cpsc leader Nancy Nord. She has been asked to resign many of times and is accused of being in bed with toy manufactures. So stay strong America and never let freedom die.
TS -American sheep  March 28, 2009 10:23 PM
I'm sick and tired of Obama did this and Bush did that. If you don't like the politicians in office then speak up. Use your right as voters and do the reasearch in your elected officials. Stop being sheep and do something. This blog is great because it shows we still have free speech. Call your congressmen, senators, and anybody that votes. That means your neighbor, coworker, and anybody else that will listen. Yes I agree that our liberties have been slowly been eroded away. We have let them. I at least have let my voice be heard. As far as progress goes I have read that a lot of congress is on board with the youth atv exclusions, but the CPSC is the ones dragging their feet. The person you should direct your anger at is the cpsc leader Nancy Nord. She has been asked to resign many of times and is accused of being in bed with toy manufactures. So stay strong America and never let freedom die.
TS -American sheep  March 28, 2009 10:22 PM
I'm sick and tired of Obama did this and Bush did that. If you don't like the politicians in office then speak up. Use your right as voters and do the reasearch in your elected officials. Stop being sheep and do something. This blog is great because it shows we still have free speech. Call your congressmen, senators, and anybody that votes. That means your neighbor, coworker, and anybody else that will listen. Yes I agree that our liberties have been slowly been eroded away. We have let them. I at least have let my voice be heard. As far as progress goes I have read that a lot of congress is on board with the youth atv exclusions, but the CPSC is the ones dragging their feet. The person you should direct your anger at is the cpsc leader Nancy Nord. She has been asked to resign many of times and is accused of being in bed with toy manufactures. So stay strong America and never let freedom die.
TS -American sheep  March 28, 2009 10:21 PM
I'm sick and tired of Obama did this and Bush did that. If you don't like the politicians in office then speak up. Use your right as voters and do the reasearch in your elected officials. Stop being sheep and do something. This blog is great because it shows we still have free speech. Call your congressmen, senators, and anybody that votes. That means your neighbor, coworker, and anybody else that will listen. Yes I agree that our liberties have been slowly been eroded away. We have let them. I at least have let my voice be heard. As far as progress goes I have read that a lot of congress is on board with the youth atv exclusions, but the CPSC is the ones dragging their feet. The person you should direct your anger at is the cpsc leader Nancy Nord. She has been asked to resign many of times and is accused of being in bed with toy manufactures. So stay strong America and never let freedom die.
bootleg -dad's  March 28, 2009 11:51 AM
dirtbikes are fun.I received my first dirtbike when I was 9.THEy were fun until my dad made me workout3 hours a day.
bootleg -dad's  March 28, 2009 11:50 AM
dirtbikes are fun.I received my first dirtbike when I was 9.THEy were fun until my dad made me workout3 hours a day.
KevM -To all of you who voted Obama  March 27, 2009 09:35 PM
To all of you who voted Obama, when will you wake up and see that the left/libs/Dem's have been attacking our freedoms for years. A little here, a little there. Any you think there is a vast right wing conspiricy. Ha. The conspiracy has been in your court. Everything the libs do is intentional, not stupid. Your just figuring this stuff out now? Who are the stupid ones...I ask you.
Gayle Jones -Bike Ban  March 27, 2009 11:17 AM
It's time we the people change how our Gov. is taking control of our lives. My family members are all motorcross riders, from Grandpa to grand son. It's a perfect sport and it keeps young kids off the street, grades up and rooms clean.
PHS -BAN  March 27, 2009 09:33 AM
One word---ASSANINE. Motorcycle riding/racing is a great way for kids and parents to develop a life long bond.
Joey -Quick Fix  March 27, 2009 12:43 AM
I solved this problem for my 8 year old nephew, simply go to the closest atomic nuclear reactor and get one of those nifty radioactive suits... Wallah, no lead poisining! I periodically test him every hour, no trace elements...I feel real safe, thanks for the eye opener ;-)
Rob B. -The government taking more rights away  March 26, 2009 09:16 AM
It is just another thing that the law makers want to take away from us. We the people have allowed the government to take away so many rights and we continue to allow it. The only way that we can keep things like this from happening is to work together to combat these rediculous laws from taking our rights away. The US definately has way to many brain dead law makers running the show. We need to work together to fix problems like this.
justin slaughter -what a joke  March 25, 2009 02:47 PM
i cant beleive how ignorent some people can be. if someone is ignorant enough to chew on a motorcycle maybe lead poisoning is the best thing for them. growing up my dad used to tell me a saying. if god hadent made breathing automatic there would be a lot less people in the world today. the more i see dumb a$$ crap like this ban the more i realize he was right.
Michigan Mike -We Gotta Get Organized  March 24, 2009 03:03 PM
I made an earlier post here, where I said I didn’t think there’s a big enough effort on the part of cycle enthusiasts to change this law. In an effort to help get the word out, I’ve added an extra page to my websites (CarDreamer.com & MotoChamps.com). Check it out at http://www.MotoChamps.com.
Shane Larsen Racing -Don't Destroy America with Stupid BANS!!!!!  March 24, 2009 11:16 AM
I don't understand this. I have been involved in this industry for 13 years and I am 22 now. I have never heard of something so stupid in my life. What are they trying to do to this country? Take away one of the only things left for kids to do besides conventional sports. Who are they to decide what is good for us. They have no idea what is up with this country anymore. All they do is sit in an office all day taking away fun activities and lifestyles for people who actually have lives. Maybe they should get out of the office more and ride themselves. If anybody in office reads this, I want you to know that you are recking an already shitty economy even more. If I had to chose between a dirtbike and a place to live, I would chose a dirt bike. Why do this??? What happened to the land of the free. I am about ready to leave the U.S. because it is so shitty. I want the government to handle homeland security and terrorism not what I can and can not do in my free time and wreck one of the best things this country has to offer. I own a motorcycle service shop and race team(MX), if you make it official you will put me out on the street. The most business I get is from 4-16 year olds and their parents. Now how will I eat, live, and pay the bills...work at McDonald's....If you really wanted to protect our youth you should ban fast food places like Burger Kinbg and McDonald's...you are more likely to die from eating that shit food than riding motorcycles. I have never heard of any kid sucking on battery terminals or licking rims or carburetors...I am so pissed about this that the person who came up with this stupid ban should lay down in rush hour traffic until they realize whats good for our youth...So DONT BAN our atvs and motorcycles because you will wreck everything for future generations!
zach edwards w.n.y.o.a -childhood  March 24, 2009 06:27 AM
i have been racing for 6 years now, and been riding minis since i was 8. these bikes and this life style has changed the way i have grown up. these hobbies have kept me from drugs and have motivated me to stay active and healthy due to the fact that i am a competitive rider. i feel that other kids should have the same lifestyle and chance to make great memories with friends and family like i did. we need to stop this before they try to get the bigger bikes and quads.
Les -wow  March 22, 2009 02:56 PM
To John Irish comment on feb 3rd. You sir need to learn to read you cant thank Obama for this "Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act of 2008, enacted August 14 of last year" This quote is taken from the beginning of the story above.
Stephanie Hardin -my kids riding professional  March 22, 2009 12:25 PM
I have 2 sons that ride and have been for 6 years and no problems with their health. They are 12 and 9. My 9 years old is very good and wats to race and become a professional motorcross rider and I am behind him 100%. He is good better than his older brother. He is too small to fit these large bikes and get the training he needs. If they are not into a sport they maybe out there doing bad things as so many children are these days. This is family time spent together that many families don't spend with their children anymore and I believe that's why kids are shooting up schools due to lack of family activities. This is his passion. By the time he can ride one of the bigger bikes without the lead per say, his training and techniques will have not been developed early enough and not able for his passion to become a reality. I cannot understand why the state does not give replacemnet parts and keep these bikes available. They give money to everyone else car dearlers and banks, well what about our youth and their dreams they will one day run the United States of America for us. Do a recall change the parts and let them ride.
Charles and Todd -Eat Dirt  March 21, 2009 01:58 PM
Eat dirt not motorcycle parts, let's be serious whose the Jack--- letting their kid eat motorcycle parts!
Joffre Loor -Accountability  March 21, 2009 03:08 AM
Fact: Jeremy McGrath began riding at an early age and is one of the best dirt bike riders of our time. Can you imagine if every great motorcycle role model had lead their lives without the exposure to motorcycles in their early years? It sounds like a group of irresponsible parents are taking away any chance of accountability by removing everyone elses right to present their children with alternative forms of recreation. What else can I NOT expose my children to, please let me know!! Can I still let my children play video games or is there some form of exposure to gases or waves that you'll have a an opinion about?!
John S. -Lead  March 20, 2009 01:13 PM
This is ridiculous. It's things like this that make me realize how much I love politicians. Let those blue haired bastards come and try to take my dirt bikes. To me this doesn't make any sense and this ban is COMPLETELY out of context. Riding ATV's keeps children out of trouble and away from drugs and alcohol. Now, kids are going to get bored and throw things at the neighbors or worse yet, eat lead based paint chips. Next member of the CPSC I see I'm going to send a pissed off 12 year old moto-nutt after them.
JD -Lead Test  March 20, 2009 07:56 AM
I read below that someone took their 3 children to have a "lead test" ? WTF? Who does that? This bill is completely ridiculous that it applies to first, this age group, and second motorized vehicles what-so-ever. I guess we will have to stop selling rotors, manifolds and chassis because of trace amounts of lead that can be found in them. When I was 6 I never really considered chewing on ANYTHING that wasn't food. This bill was aimed at regulating the lead content in very young children's toys, which of course is extremely appropriate, not to restrict good clean fun and tradition for families. Furthermore, how many people died of lead poisoning last year anyways? What in the hell is our congress doing focusing on lead content in various items in the US? Pretty sure more people died from... about anything else.
Dale S. -Common Sense  March 19, 2009 07:09 PM
The reality of it is that children are no more subjected to the lead in ATV's than they are to the lead in the family car....Batteries, lead tire weights. I think they are missing the point of safety and getting stuck on technicalities. They could spend their time on much more important items.
Michigan Mike -CSPC Law  March 19, 2009 01:17 PM
This is ridiculous! I just heard about this a few days ago, and then I happened upon the article on Malcolm Smith, which led me to this page. I’m not a part of the motorcycle industry, I have no kids who would be affected by this, and I haven’t even been on a motorcycle in the past 10 years. –But in the past, I’ve enjoyed many hours of good, clean fun with people who would definitely be unfairly affected if this law is not changed. I see in the comments below, that some people are blaming Obama and the liberals, while others are blaming Bush. In general, I think this is just another case where we ALL are being poorly served by our politicians and bureaucrats. These people are passing and imposing laws without having any real understanding of the far-reaching consequences. -And I don’t think there’s a big enough effort on the part of cycle enthusiasts to change this law. I just used the info on the right of this page to send a letter, and I think Motorcycle-USA.com should be commended for making it so easy. –But I think this is so important, that it should be featured in big, bold print on the homepage. People who care about this have to get better organized, or else they’re gonna get steam-rolled.
BrothaMatt a.k.a BamBam -this is wrong  March 18, 2009 09:27 PM
i cant believe that they have to ban all mini bikes, this is a total outrage!! this is ruining the future fun for our youth and causing the sport of motocross to fall! without mini bikes children have no way to learn to ride and that is just wrong!!!!!!! so all i have to say is lets keep mini bikes alive!!!!! BRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPP!!!!!
Jacob I. -Disappointment  March 17, 2009 03:36 PM
I know a lot of little kids out there who will be disappointed when they are racing their 50, crash, and break a lever or something and know that they won't be able to fix it. I have a 50 that i like to ride around on at my house, but now i'm afraid to break it so i have stopped riding it for the most part. The point is that this ban is unnecessary and quite a heart breaker to those 50 riders out there.
ZAC KENNEDY -WHAT?  March 17, 2009 12:28 PM
Jason C -Unbelievable  March 16, 2009 11:03 PM
I just started to hear about the ban yesterday. Guess I'm a little behind the times. Unfortunately, I also had promised my son that we are going to go and look for him his first dirtbike Tuesday. Now I have to break his little heart because our damn politicians have messed up yet another thing in this country. I don't care if I have to go up to Canada and buy him a bike I will figure it out. To hell with this ruined country. Whats next, they start to ban us taking our kids to the beach, because they can get burnt by the sun, drown, or eat sand. Just ridiculous is you ask me. I hope this ban doesn't stick on bikes and ATV's for very long. Lets just hope somebody in DC has a brain and will speak up for all of us.
kylespillman -what the f  March 16, 2009 02:04 PM
im 13 yrs old ive rode all my life i have a 100 crf there basicly telling me i cant buy a inertube for my front tire or a oil pan that sucks big donkey dick
Keith T -ban  March 14, 2009 12:44 PM
This is insane! I grew up riding atv's and motorcycles. I got my first bike at 5 and my younger brother also got his at 5. We spent hours after hours as a family riding with my dad and friends. It kept us busy and away from trouble. We were busy riding or working on our bikes instead of trying to figure out how we could buy cigarettes & beer. I have 2 kids now & both enjoy their bikes. When their atv breaks and i can't get parts maybe that senator wants to explain to them why they can't be fixed!!!!
JohnEden88 -Seriosuly?  March 13, 2009 10:10 PM
motocross brings fathers and sons together all over the world and u guys are trying to stop this. motocross keeps kids focused on a goal and prevents them from doing drugs and getting into trouble. it is a great sport and has a major influence on millions of kids, wtf is wrong with the government?
TS -Atv Ban  March 11, 2009 01:19 PM
Thanks B. Its is always easy to blame but actions speak louder than flat out complaining. Since I learned about about this yesterday, I have written 2 senators and 1 congressman, and 1 president. If everybody that had an issue with government spoke out they would realize that we still demand a voice and will not be silenced. This ban is hopefully just a stupid mistake, and not an attempt to undermine offroading. So call your politicians, just follow the links on this page. Stay strong and keep families where they belong. On the trail.
B -Blame Game  March 11, 2009 09:12 AM
I see comments blaming this ban entirely on "liberals" and "Obama the socialist"... This law was passed under the Bush administration in 2008 with overwhelming bipartisan support from the congress! It passed the House 424 to 1 and the Senate 89 to 3 (8 senators not voting - which included Hillary Clinton and Obama). So... Who's to blame again? It would seem clear that given the near unanimous voting numbers, the law was not intended to include kid's OHV. It is the CPSC that is interpreting the law too literally. Either way it sucks and needs to get fixed. Let's hope our letters to our representatives, liberal or not, get this reversed!
Lee -Ban on Youth Motorcycles  March 10, 2009 11:04 PM
This is what you get when you vote in liberals into postions of power . We are going to lose freedoms little at a time, be carefull what you vote for. BIG GOVERMENT
ChuckC -Ban  March 10, 2009 12:21 PM
Another good example of good intentions taking way to far! This country is just getting worse and worse...when will all this type of crap come to an end. Good thing my son already has a bike, I guess my daughter will have to share.
Kevin Walter -ban  March 10, 2009 08:58 AM
This proves that we are slipping into a communist country. What kid have you met that sucks on the brake lever of his bike or ATV? This is going to stop my brother from being able to ride because we won’t be able to get the necessary parts for every day maintenance. I agree about the US Rookies Cup. They just baled on us in a heartbeat, just unethical if you ask me.
DavidG -ban  March 9, 2009 09:12 PM
I grew up drinking water out of the garden hose and never wore a helmet when I rode my bicycle, I built my first bike at age 15,been riding ever since, my point is that we have become so anal about anything remotely associated with microns per million that may or may not be harmful that they ban everything to cover their collective asses,not to mention that being outside and being active makes you healthier,more confident and different than the gamers sitting at home turning themselves into mush
antman -lead  March 9, 2009 05:49 PM
tell all your freinds about the letter i just got 29 people to do it!! LETS GO GET IT DONE !!!AND MINI- WHEELY THROUGH THE WHITE HOUSE
Dave -Lead Ban  March 8, 2009 07:24 PM
So... How come they haven't banned children from riding in cars yet?
L Jean -Gov. control  March 8, 2009 12:46 PM
The goverment wants to control all these days , too bad , the lead in a bike or ATV will never contact the mouths of a child ..........Can't they find something else to work on besides this control, Like foreclosures that will effect all the family and all ages
kelly -econemy  March 8, 2009 12:06 PM
all the pencil pushin' libs in d.c. talk about helping the econemy and we need to create jobs- well i wanted to buy my son a bigger bike now i can't because he might get hungry on the trail and eat it!! obama the socialist could end this stupidity within a few days. but that would mean someone would have to admit they were wrong to impost this law- wake up america- we are just steps away from socialism
Dylan -lance  March 8, 2009 11:36 AM
While I agree the govt. always goes to the extreme with any issue, there is some merit to this ban. I have three children and recently took them for a lead test, two came up with a zero while the other came back with a nine. All live in the same house, the only difference is the one with the nine rides a quad. As we all know lead is extremely detrimental to children, so let the ban take its course. My sympathies to the shops. YOU ARE THE BIGGEST @SSHOLE IN THE WORLD YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT YOU NEED TO SHUT THE #*!@ UP YOU HAVE HNOW IDEA I HAVE RODE SINCE BEFORE I KNEW HOW TO RIDE A PEDAL BIKE AND I AM 36 I JUST GOT A LEAD TEST AND ONLY CAME UP WITH A 2 WHICH IS ALMOST NO LEAD I WORK AS A MECHANIC SO ITS PROBABLY THE RICE GRINDER CARS I WORK ON!
Dylan -lead  March 8, 2009 11:28 AM
I wonder how many commissioners drive in their car with their kids in the backseat wondering if their kids are going to get cancer or some $hit!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?
Lance -lead ban  March 8, 2009 08:40 AM
While I agree the govt. always goes to the extreme with any issue, there is some merit to this ban. I have three children and recently took them for a lead test, two came up with a zero while the other came back with a nine. All live in the same house, the only difference is the one with the nine rides a quad. As we all know lead is extremely detrimental to children, so let the ban take its course. My sympathies to the shops.
Reynolds -Not everyone playing by the rules  March 7, 2009 07:14 AM
For all the news of the Kid's ATV & Bike Ban, it has not affected all retailers equally. In the last week I have been in several stores still selling small ATVs and off-road bikes. Most notably two PEP BOYS stores and a local chain of Farm and Tractor stores. I have also seen a couple of small motorcycle shops with bikes on display. In every single case these are retailers of Chinese imports. It is very likely that this is occurring nationwide. There is an interesting story in this. Every KTM, HONDA, YAMAHA, SUZUKI & KAWASAKI mainstream dealership has tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars lost and tied up while the more loosely organized and unregulated non-franchised resellers continue to make sales and profits. There's no car load of Consumer Protection Police that are going to show up at the feed store in small town USA to pickup a couple of ATVs and issue fines. Only businesses being hurt are those that are following the rule of law voluntarily. I think there is a faction in CPSIA that desired a Safety Ban action on children's powersports vehicles anyway it could be achieved. That attitude is the reason behind the agency's the inaction on this issue.
mike k -tasty dirt bikes  March 6, 2009 06:36 AM
i used too eat at least 4 dirt bikes a week as a child,still no adverse side effects!!!!,my question is, Has any lab done any test on children today after they ate there dirt bike ?? And what were the test results.and does anyone know of any person getting lead poisoning from a dirt bike.
L Head -How did the rough draft make it past the editor??  March 5, 2009 09:48 PM
Of course we need to do something about the cheap China toys poisoning our kids and clogging up our landfills and actually forming an island in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. This may have been a good rough draft to address that problem. BUT.....If I have to pay property taxes and registration fees on something.....ITS NOT A TOY!!!
ERIC DUCRAY - NORCAL MOTORSPORTS -youth motorcycle ban  March 5, 2009 04:16 PM
This ban is ridiculous and should be ruled unfair. The lead content in a motorcycle from my perspective should be irrelevant. Kids do not chew on their bikes,the most dangerous things about dirt bikes is crashing on them. So, lets all wear gear and go ridding.
Kat Hofmeister (Lady Dirt Racer) -This Ban is a JOKE  March 5, 2009 01:25 PM
I have been riding since I was a little girl. My father, uncles and brothers and sister before me too. We have an old saying of how we cut our teeth on motorcycles. We didn't really mean we Chewed on our bikes to cut our teeth. Give me a break. My daughter and boyfriends children have been riding since they could sit on a bike. This terrible ban will affect every single one of my family members and also District 36's Motorcycle FAMILY! This ban is total NONSENSE. Find something more important to ban..like the dorks that are trying to take the sport away from us. Hmmm, I have yet to see a child lick or chew on their motorcycle!
Chris -ban  March 5, 2009 06:53 AM
I have been rideing moto ever sence i was little and now my sone is doing the same thing. we try to find things for our kids to do to keep them out of the gangs and from doing things that will get them in trouble first they take away the areas that w can ride even thoe they are for the public beacuse some one builds a house near there and says that it is to noisy well dont build near there and you dont have to worry about it and then they tke away our toys what are we saposed to do now get a life peopel if you dont like what we do and like that we like to have fun with our familys then dont look and stop taking away our fun and fun for our kids
christopher S. -dirtbike ban  March 4, 2009 03:48 PM
I just found and fell in love with dirt bike riding and racing. I wanted to be a professional dirt bike rider and racer when i grow up. why do they have to take away things that are good and fun. This stinks.
James & Jacob Kent Colo. -led ban bull  March 4, 2009 01:52 PM
Let me just say I`ve been riding dirt bikes as well as working on them myself since a very young age. Aparently this led has not affected me or all of the above people so I`m thinking someone should check what our elected officals our chewing on. Maybe they grew up teething on some tires or valve stems. My kid rides his bike he has never tried to !@#$% EAT IT!! With this said I think I speak for a whole lotta people when I say (WE ARE ALL TIRED OF CHEWING ON THEIR BULLCRAP!!!!!!)RIDE ON!!!! JUST TWIST IT!!!!!!
Adam Hutchinson -Dont complain ! Do somthing !  March 3, 2009 09:40 AM
To repeat what all the others said is a waste of time our goverment has gotten used to us all complaining, its their way of knowing they have completed a job well done. On the other hand anyone who is reading this has a internet link and most likly a printer, make a hundred hand bills and take a hour out of your day and go to the local walmart and pass out the info if you are willing to coplain and you love the family nature of this sport like me and my children do , then teach them the full circle of being a rider.Teach them to fight for THEIR right to ride! Nothing moves people like a child with a mission!
Paul B -Ban  March 3, 2009 07:34 AM
Motorcycles & ATV are not like toys, kids don't go around putting them in there mouth or bitting on them. The handle grips are of rubber. The foot peg are made steel and not painted most of the time. Seats are cover with plastic covers. So where are you going to make contact with the lead. I don't thing anyone gose around smelling on there atv or bike. So where is the contact that will cause lead to get into your system. To take away the joy of this sport for this REASON is CRAZY.
eric -what the....  March 3, 2009 06:07 AM
Is this what the government is now wasting our money on? Your never gonna stop riding!!!! Use that money for something that counts instead of depriving our youth of their fn times!!! What a bnch of IDIOTS!!!!!
Mark 42 -I wish our government would do something useful...  March 2, 2009 04:03 PM
I wish our government would do something useful, like go after people who produce and distribute Malware, Trojans, Spyware and Viruses. Especially the ones who purport their software to be "Anti-Spyware" when it is Malware and infects your computer (and dupes inexperienced users into buying their "Cure"). I had "Spyware Protect 2009" somehow infect my PC, and still have been unable to clean it out of my system after two days of trying. I think maybe we need to bring back flogging as part of those efforts to apprehend and punish these purveyors of grief!
otis williams -this is the best thing to ever happen to this god aweful sport  March 2, 2009 04:43 AM
go govrnment
Lori Bogle -ATV Safety Course Requirements are in effect in Oregon  March 1, 2009 03:23 PM
After reading SteveN's comment, I wanted to say that I live in Oregon. Effective January 1, 2009 the state has put a ATV Safety Course Requirement Law. Here is some information: Mandatory Training Ages Year Mandatory Safety Training Age Jan. 1, 2009 Youth 15 and under and adults supervising youth Jan. 1, 2010 30 and under Jan. 1, 2011 40 and under Jan. 1, 2012 50 and under Jan. 1, 2013 60 and under Jan. 1, 2014 All riders must have an ATV safety education card There is no minimum age to take the online course, though some children may have a difficult time with the course material. We strongly encourage parents to go through the course materials and test with their child/children. Parents who participate and who pass the test will receive their safety card as well. Even parents who choose not to take the test usually find the course both informative and enjoyable. If someone does not have access to the internet or for some other reason is physically unable to take the on-line course, please have them call toll free 877-7SAFELY for a hardship application. Other Rider Requirements in Oregon SUPERVISION: All youth operators 15 and under must be supervised by an adult who: 1. Is at least 18 years old. 2. Holds a valid ATV Safety Education Card. 3. Is able to provide immediate assistance and direction to the youth. CHIN STRAPS: DOT Approved helmets, with chin straps fastened, are required for youth under age 18 for quads and dirt bikes. RIDER FIT: Class I operators (quads and 3-wheelers) 15 and under must now meet all the following minimum physical size requirements in relationship to the vehicle: 1. Brake Reach: With hands placed in the normal operating position and fingers straight out, the first joint (from the tip) of the middle finger will extend beyond the brake lever and clutch. 2. Leg Length: While sitting and with their feet on the pegs, the knee must be bent at least 45 degrees. 3. Grip Reach: While sitting upright on the quad with hands on the handle bars and not leaning forward, there must be a distinct angle between the upper arm and the forearm, and; 4. The rider must be able to turn the handle bars from lock to lock while maintaining grip on the handle bars and maintaining throttle and brake control. 5. Disabled riders are allowed to use prosthetic devices or modified or adaptive equipment to achieve rider fit. MINIMUM AGE: There is no minimum age for quad or 3-wheeled ATVs. Minimum age for off-road motorcycles is 7 years old. With Department of Parks and Recreation www.rideATVoregon.org I believe that safety guidlines are in place to help the riders. I don't know about other states. Also, all of the members of our family have helmets, goggles, gloves, chest protectors, riding boots, riding pants and jersey's and a few others have elbow guards and knee protectors as well. Common sense is rule of thumb and I think that the CPSC is reaching beyond the intent of the law. The day I see a small child chewing on an ATV/OHV in their bedroom is the day I see pigs fly.
SteveN -FYI info on ban  March 1, 2009 11:10 AM
This is what I have been able to find on this youth ATV/motorcycle Ban: Public Law 110-314-AUG.14.2008 can be viewed at www.cpsc.gov/cpsia.Pdf , TITLE I Children's Product Safety SEC. 101 Childrens products containing lead; lead paint rule (see pages 3-4-5). This does not identify motorcycles or ATVs, but does restrict lead levels a child could be exposed to. Also notice exemptions for electronic (TVs, Game Consoles, Battery Powered Toys, ect) devices. There are no such exemptions for hunting or fishing accessories, ie; fishing poles or (Heaven forbid) guns. ATVs are specified in SEC. 232 ALL-TERRAIN VEHICLE STANDARD. "SEC. 42. ALL-TERRAIN VEHICLES. (see pages 57-58-59) and also check out "(e) Definitions. "(1)"(A). Look out FISHER-PRICE! In regard to the YOUTH ATVs they have used the 2006 Annual Report of ATV-Related deaths an Injuries (view at www.cpsc.gov/library/atv2006.pdf). Reporting of the 8,104 decedents under the age of 16, from January 1,1982 through December 31, 2006, an estimated 12 percent were under 12 years of age. This report also estimates 39,300 emergency room treated injuries for ages younger than 16 years, for 2006 alone. Now I do not support this or any ban on youth oriented motor vehicles, but there seems to be some evidence as to the level of responsible rider education of ATV riders versus motorcycle riders. It has been our duty to our new riders to teach a reasonable level of basic skills and safety precautions. No I do not wear my helmet every time I mount up, but I do know when it is in my best interest to do so. I taught my children and my grandchildren to ride with helmets, sturdy footwear, long pants, and shirts with sleeves. I always accompanied them when they rode, that machine is not baby sitter. I truly hope that an exemption can be granted for youth oriented ATVs and motorcycles, because they are the future of the sport. And we all bear the responsibility to make it safer for our young rides, not take it away from them!
Lori Bogle -Absolutley Amazing!!!!!  March 1, 2009 07:24 AM
This is crazy! This is a FAMILY sport! This is one of the ONLY activities that I know of where ALL of the family can get involved. We have a large family of riders, many are multi-generational. When our group goes out it is a group of riders that are in our 40's - 50's and our children that range from 10 years old to 35. Our children's friends and then their children (us 40 to 50-year-olds GRANDCHILDREN) all-in-all, there is about 35 people in our riding party. Our equipment range from lil' Honda XR50 clear up to a Yamaha Raptor 650. Everything from Class I to Class III ATV. We have a great time on our one weekend a month. We all look out for the lil'ones that are learning to ride around camp. Taking the slightly older kids out on the trails. It's a great way to stay connected as a family and to stay clean and sober and to teach our kids a life of sobriety, while having fun. Of course, we could always go back to our OLD lifestyle of rippin' and runnin'- doing crimes and having the criminal/drug addicted generational curse continue, instead of living a socially acceptable lifestyle, working hard for the money we receive on our paychecks and teaching our children that there is a better way. But then, that would make sense. I have never seen a child cut their teeth on an OHV/ATV. This is craziness in the full sense of the word. I guess these law makers would rather these kids do drugs, shoot at people, get invovled in gangs, and commit crimes. That a great way to spend our tax dollars - on the criminal justice system. What a bunch of idiots! My biggest complaint is that NOBODY was informed that THEY were going to pull a sneaky move like this on us family oriented people. I really could go on about this, but bottom line is this. They don't even understand the long-term consequences of this law going into effect and would urge them to correct themselves before irreversable damage is seen.
DirtyLilHippie -idiocy  February 28, 2009 11:55 PM
this ban speaks to idiocy as much as JV sayin his kids pencils have lead in them... it's graphite not lead in the pencils
Jakoby -WTF!!!!  February 28, 2009 06:51 PM
like we naw on our bikes wtf! eco nuts
Matt Ogden -stupid  February 28, 2009 06:33 PM
I think in the long run it would be less costly just to fix this dumb problem then to pull the bikes. they have to make a killing on youth bikes why would they want to get rid of them?
runt -ban  February 28, 2009 11:07 AM
are you kidding me?? as we write these comments an 11 year old child who just recieved a 20 gauge shotgun for christmas is going to stand trial for shooting someone and they are taking away motorcycles!?!? come on.. these people need to get real
Rick -What BS  February 28, 2009 04:10 AM
I just purchased a new 70cc quad 2/28 , I was informed about this outrage when i talked to the dealer. He informed me that his existing stock could be sold off and the mini's will no longer be available..This war on our children must be the best kept secret in the ATV world. Hats off to the AMA for keeping its members informed and stepping up to the plate for riders of all ages ( Well i do get a cute little pin and a magazine for my money ). It's amazing how misinformed the public is on this issue.. This issue needs to be in the national spotlight, The emails will soon begin to the local and national news. Eventually someone will have listen.
Brendan -stupid  February 27, 2009 04:50 PM
i don't think dirt bikes taste that good, so there is no reason for small children to be eating them, which is how they might get lead poisoning. absolutely ridiculous. write a letter.
E. Rob -WOW  February 27, 2009 04:07 PM
This is crazy I went looking for bikes in January. Being that we live in Alaska the dealer sugested that I wait until break up (when the snow melts in May or so)to purchase.Not only did the dealer not know about the ban but our racing club did not know.Us being rich Alaskan's would have bought new bikes after the season or before the ban. Thank you Gov. Sarah !!!!
Aaron G -China Product  February 27, 2009 09:40 AM
This ban will mainly affect the importing of China goods. The days for mass producing inferior products and undermining the integrity of US sales finally struck a chord. This ban is only driven by the declining sales of name brand motorcycle that ultimately can’t compete with Chinese components. Until now the average person struggled to convince themselves that it was okay to spend 1800 on a 50cc dirt bike who’s child will out grow in a season. Now, it’s an easy decision. Any risk we consume as adults should be at our own expense and not dictated by the government.
Toni -take action  February 27, 2009 09:34 AM
This is the dumbest thing I've heard in a while. Please be sure to use the bar on the right and submit your protest, it took me about 10 seconds. Toni
kurt griwicki -this is stupid  February 27, 2009 08:17 AM
I think banning dirt bikes for children under 12 is stupid. Not only have I ridden since I was five years old and never had an issue. But it is my responsibility as a parent to teach my son to respect his dirt bike. There is a ton of other thing that is dangerous on a dirt bike. They have GAS in them OIL and they are HOT. I have taught my five year old how to respect these things and wear his safety equipment. If I can do all that then I think I can keep him from chewing on it…… what he suppose to do now play video games…..
Lacey Clayton -Write!  February 27, 2009 06:55 AM
I was hot as could be about this, as I promissed my kids quads for their bdays! I have sent my letters to EVERYONE, including the President's site, yeah yeah I know he may not take to much interest with everything else, but I'm trying!
Larry Matthews -get real  February 26, 2009 02:13 PM
last i checked most people keep their bikes in the garage.. not laying around in the kids bedroom.. My son started ridding when he was 2.5 yrs. old and never once stumbled out to the garege to snack on his bike.. i guess i was lucky.. It is such B.S. to think we are incapable of raising our own children.. NO more common sense.
Bob T. -how can they do this  February 26, 2009 10:56 AM
I wish i could find the people who put this into play to show them what they are doing to children. show them how fat kids will get now that they cant ride. what the hell is this country trying to do to us? get us all fat or something?
JJ Dineen -atv and dirtbike ban  February 25, 2009 06:43 PM
whose big idea was this in the first place???????????? i am willing to bet whoever's idea it was has never been within a mile of an atv or bike...lead poisoning??? what are they plannin on the kids doin chewin on the crank case? i would love to hear about an 8 year old getting lead poison from his quad or bike. i have been riding for as long as i can remeber and ive never been poisoned nor have i heard of some one being poisoned. this is theee most retarded thing ive ever heard of. this is a sport and a hobby for just as many, if not more kids than adults. i dont know about other places around the country but where im from there is a good chance that if it wasnt for my quad i would probably have been into drugs because how big it is in my town. this is going to happen to many kids at very young age if nothing is done about the ban placed on atvs and bikes
Bill -wow  February 25, 2009 04:15 PM
Seriously how many kids have died from gnawing on their motorcycle?
christian grier -ktm 65  February 25, 2009 03:07 PM
these are not toys! how many children would you just give one of these too? there not building blocks for crying out loud.
jusohiotin smith -grrrrrrrrrrrr  February 25, 2009 01:27 PM
im with every one else my kids love riding as much as i do, lets start a revolution
keith wilson western colorado -DUMB ASS BAN  February 24, 2009 05:45 PM
Bad Azz -Perfect  February 24, 2009 12:00 PM
Now I don't have to see any child using a cell phone with a battery. It would also be illegal for them to use a TV remote. and when they are old enough to ride, no one will have any expirence, and my insurance rates will go even higher. Perfect
JV -Governmental issues.  February 24, 2009 08:47 AM
You call this land of the free, America, What else will they come up with. One thing is, we might as well keep all the kids out of school , since they write with lead pencils.
Kelly -ATV BAN? WTF!  February 24, 2009 07:04 AM
Are you serious? So now what is my son suppose to do? Hang out on the street and do drugs instead? You want to ban something that is good for the kids? Something that get's them out doors and off the streets? I really find it hard to believe that a kid is going to pick out an ATV or motorcycle that's in the garage or shed and start gnawing on its lead parts. If he even knows where they are at to begin with! I recently purchased an ATV and found out now that I can't purchase him one. This is ridiculous. You guys should be more worried about getting kids off the streets and drugs instead of off ATV's and motorcycles. You might as well buy my ATV back and I'll just go back to drinking. There goes my family activity.... thanks for saving America! Dumb @sses!
Martin M., P.E. -Not at all the intent of the law, these "Safety groups/advocates" are the real criminals here!  February 23, 2009 10:32 PM
I can not believe this even made it this far, a co-worker told me about it this week. As I understand it the law was completely intended for very young children affected by lead poisoning from chewing on toddler toys. It's entire intent and target was to prevent the manufacturing of lead toys that your typical 1-3 year old kids may pick up off the floor and chew on. It's not at all intended to go so far as to ban motorcycles and atvs. I'd be alot more concerned about my 2 year old daughter licking the gasoline off the gastank than immeasurable harmless quantities of lead from the metals off our ATV. There is simply no data to even suggest there is some sort of noteworthy risk. This is simply ridiculous and I sure hope these "Safety" group extremists that pushed this "2 year old paint toy" law onto ATV's are happy that they truely are the criminals in all of this. THEY know that wasn't the intent of this law, and THEY know this is taking advantage of the system for their own benefit/beliefs, and THEY better darn well know they are costing the taxpayers and citizens of the USA millions of dollars! To me that makes these "Safety" advocates nothing more than your every day drug induced hate crime motivated criminal! They are costing us and the entire economy millions of wasted dollars for their own benefit. The man upstairs is watching you and you will serve appropriately for your actions! Wow...I'm simply disgusted at the thought that these so called "Safety Advocates" can even consider them some sort of gift to mankind....they are far worse than any sort of poison, they are a tumor in this already suffering economy! wow... And what ever happened to making the "Parents" responsible for their children....it's just gone WAY TOO far!!!!!!!!!
Mike S -Ban  February 23, 2009 07:50 PM
I just found out about this ban yesterday when I was on the web to look at new 90's for my oldest son so my youngest can start riding our 50. I can't believe that something so ridiculous was passed. I have been riding for 17 years and now that my boys are getting old enough to go riding and camping I may not be able to take them. I know that this is affecting the atv and motorcycle dealers but what about the companies that sell camping equipment and the automakers. There will be people out there that were going to by complete rigs and machines to ride that may not do it if they can't get one for the kids. The part that really makes me mad is that I can have problems getting parts for the 50 I already have. God for bid that you would actually ride it and broke it. What a bunch of BS. Mike S Pennsylvania
c-pham -more bad news what's next  February 23, 2009 05:22 PM
Are we gonna make it out of this slumping economy without having to hear more bad news. It's not like my son or daughter is going to fix their bikes or mine's. lead? there's more dangerous stuff out there that is more dangerous than lead like our failing economy and school system. We can go on and on but banning bikes for kids. That's chiken*&%$. Is this where my tax dollars is hard at work?
Joshua Sefton -this stupid ass law part 2  February 23, 2009 06:45 AM
The next thing I have to say might get me in hot water but I dont really see how so here we go! This is a pretty simple thought adult bikes and kid bikes have the same components there for they did not do this for the sake of the kids they did this to CONTROL a generation I say that WV as well as all 49 other states form up a peaceful demostration in Washington D.C. I think we shouls be able to have our voices heard on this after all we are the consumer! please send me E-mails at joshuasefton21@yahoo.com I appreciate any input on this subject once again I should stress that this is a PEACEFUL demostration I stress this fact due to the fact that OUR government officials have trouble interputing information once agin I thank you all so lets get something going E-mail your thoughts at the adress listed above thank you once again Joshua J Sefton
Joshua Sefton -This stupid ass law  February 23, 2009 06:11 AM
I think its time for washington to pull thier heads out of thier ass this in a complete insult to our intelligence if they really want to fix the lead problem they should start with the damn water I say this to the dealer sale it anyway they do not have the resources to put us all in jail any way come on you all wake up and grow a pair we are the ones who made the government any way we own them and it is not the other way around
Shannon Ewing -ban  February 22, 2009 08:20 PM
Once again our government telling us how to live. While it is a good idea about banning lead in items especially where our children are concerned, I just wish that they would use common sense w/ it. But see, that would make sense now wouldn't it?
Brett Fowkes -Mini bike ban  February 22, 2009 07:54 PM
All I can say is you cant fix stupid ! For as far back as i can remember I've been riding with my dad. We've riden the length of syline drive, all the way around the white rim trail, Been camping in hundreds of places and seen millions or even counless beautifull places all on a motorcycle. Some of my best memories are of me and my dad ridin. I've provided this for my three sons, my daughter and wife. Its been a key family activity for generations. NEVER has lead been an issue. I guess it just not part of our diet. Its one of the saddest things to see happen to families. I've so looked forward to riding with my grandchilren. But I geuss they will never see the joy the my family has enjoyed for decades. God bless America.
Mike H. -Ban  February 22, 2009 05:34 PM
I bet a lot of that huge article is a load of crap. I mean, they arent banning it for the reasons they say they are. They are probably banning it for somthing so stupid and embaressing that they have to lie and come up with somthing.
RCKEV -Food for thought  February 22, 2009 11:56 AM
There goes my pastime of chewing on cycle parts. First it was the paint chips and then the mini-blinds. Good lord what will we do know?
Jazdude64 -Youth Ban  February 22, 2009 08:53 AM
Way to go Ojama! Now we can walk to the bread lines in a few months since we won't be riding or be able to afford gas anyway! If there is lead content in my wheelchair, are you gonna make me crawl too?
WiliamM. -Lead Ban  February 22, 2009 07:38 AM
To whom it may concern I have been riding bikes all my life being 35 years of age now,I have a seven yr old who just started on a crf50.I am highly opposed to this ban and would rather see you LAWMAKERS get more focused on serious issues and let parents decide what is best for our kids.
mike ....American citizen ... - ban  February 22, 2009 07:29 AM
all you of you who are not VOTING taking some time to learn what you are voting for .. I am afraid it may be to late for that now
bb -what a bunch of twits  February 22, 2009 04:29 AM
we should ban basketballs and nets to inner city youths because it has been proven more children suffer from sprained ankles and broken legs from playing this sport than rural kids suffering to lead poisoning from atv riding showing up at any emergency room.
monkey05855 -Ban  February 21, 2009 06:56 PM
I have been racing for atleast 6 years... i have little brothers and sisters who are taking after me and when i found out about this they were mad... and so was i... i may only be 15 but to think if i was 3 years younger i wouldnt beable to race... thats stupid.. my lil sister who is 3 hasnt put anything in her mouth and she was born around bikes... she enjoys goin to the tracks and watching me and my older brother race! i think this whole thing is BS.
Jim -ban on alot  February 21, 2009 06:21 PM
if you think this issue is just with dirtbikes you need to look around. currently they are banning many types of reptiles that people breed and raise as their choice for a pet. try to get ammunition for your second ammendment enforcement tool. they just passed breeding rules for dog and cat breeders in our area that make to costly to do. didnt DMV fees get doubled? socialism is only helpful to the helpless!
Jake K -WE THE PEOPLE DONT KNOW S##t  February 20, 2009 05:26 PM
It dont matter what politician came up with this one they are all full of it and think they know whats best. Maybe they better get out and see what harm they really caused. But what do they care they're in office and still getting our money. Just remember next election read between the BS and see who is telling the least amount of lies. AMERICA HOME OF THE FREE WELLFARE AND SOCIALIST PARTIES
Kim -Ban  February 20, 2009 04:02 PM
My husband and i own a small cycle shop mostly parts and accessories but we get small motorcycles in to work on and if we can't get parts we for them we can't make money if we don't make money we have to close3 is this what our government wants my son is 22 years old and has rode motorcycles 95% of his life and he is just fine come on wake and an see what you are doing is wrong for many reasons these kids love it we go to the races every weekend and the funnest part is watching the kids they really get into it also i believe that motorcycling has kept my son out of a lot of trouble
Krystle -Check it out  February 20, 2009 03:32 PM
Visit myspace.com/savemx a page dedicated to young riders. there is info posted on it, as well as links to sign multiple petitions. In 1 week, have already 600 people on board. please add as a friend and keep the numbers going up. We may get an in to present the myspace to a congressman. we want the numbers as high as possible!! chcek it out myspace.com/savemx
BrandonB. -Banned  February 20, 2009 03:17 PM
Come on its not like we are eating these things. I have been riding since I was 8 im now 20, and I have no signs of lead poisoning. Now parents can go buy there kids the bigger machines. What do you think happens when you put someone with no experiance on a machine they shouldn't even think about riding? But I guess the government has all the answers.
Chris A -Ban  February 20, 2009 09:10 AM
Way to go Uncle Sam. Nice of our elected officials to use absolutely zero common sense to solve a problem. If they can't take away all of our riding area, they might as well take the bikes away from our kids. United States of America, land of the not so free.
LisaB -Ban  February 20, 2009 07:56 AM
As a mother of 3 (10, 6 and 4) my heart is broken. My son who is 6 has a passion for riding, which stems from a passion my husband had growing up. We camp and ride ALL THE TIME and my son has recently started racing! This is our family time and a huge part of our lives. All of our lives. This makes no sense to me and now I have 3 broken hearted children who have a passion for something that they may no longer be able to do! Rethink this please! It's not just the riding, it the family time, the time my husband shares with them showing them how to build and fix bikes, the time spent giving them the confidence to be great at something they love. The joy I get from riding with them and seeing them ride will be taken away too. This is so wrong in so many ways!
Anony Mous -FUK the govt.  February 19, 2009 04:47 PM
What's next? Banning kids from riding in cars and trucks, 'cause guess what, there's lead. Banning kids from going outside to play in the yard, 'cause guess what, there is lead in the soil. The govt. is nothing but a piece of sh*t entity that is just out to screw you and make money off of you. They could give a rats ass about the people....
norman whitman -lead ban  February 19, 2009 03:28 PM
Earl -what??  February 19, 2009 01:41 PM
I eat my cow-wth saki all da time..... I also work in da govement tooo!! You pay my Salary.... DA..ha. Who is the dumb 1 now? Someone find out who this brainy _ss is and let the whole world know so we can fire his Idiotic, stupid, igor- nant _ss!!!!
norman whitman -lead ban  February 19, 2009 09:50 AM
now its my message to congress and the senate.grow up get a life.all you cooky eyed pelosis out there can go jump off a bridge.i hear theres a nice one in san francisco and maybe all offspring like you will be aborted with all your anti stimulus dollars.even the pope cant stand people likeyou with no spine to stand up for our people.lack of true leadership for far to long.all our hard fought battles for such incompetence makes me sick.we need to elect people with no higher than an eighth education to get some common sense back.leave us alone....do your job and get out of our way...we made our country great not you...get it...
jessie -to greg  February 19, 2009 09:44 AM
bush signed this bill! this is what happens when we try to regulate other nations. it blew up in our face while trying to regulate chinese products. also every time a child gets a fever, the parents want to ban something. this is our fault. so get to writing your letters to your state legislators.
norman whitman -ban on peanut butter or motorcycles  February 19, 2009 09:30 AM
Folks the time has come to say whats really on our minds. as many have already.my children grew up racing bikes.every weekend all together having fun getting aggrevated traveling but together.we all know this is bullcrap and even the fact that such legislation was thought up tells us while we are all at work so we can have a life people are scheming up ways to take away things.i asked my two and a half year old grandson if he would taste the clutch lever on his bike, he gave me a funny look and said no papa you cant eat a motorcycle.folks its time to tell govt. to but out and lets focus on the peanutbutter so we can eat after each moto. my 2 year old has a message for the congress and senate. you cant eat motorcycles.
s carp -band  February 19, 2009 06:50 AM
i dont think they understand that you dont eat the motorcycle. they pasat this law because the led was in kids toys that was in or around there mouths. you dont put dirt bikes in or around your mouth. this is taking so many jobs away. cobra has nothing. ktm is losing tons. polini is gone. they are talking about making jobs for all these people and look..... they take thousands away. and how could this be clasified as a toy? and plus this sport starts with amature stuff. without i think the sport will slowly decline. by the time you are old enough to ride an 84 you will already have other intrest. or that will be to much bike for a beginer.
Shawn Curtsinger -lead ban  February 18, 2009 11:11 PM
This ban and quality time taken from our families is just one more step at breaking down family morals and ethics, but as we are in the middle of the economy downfall we make another move to make many many people loose their jobs, can our government not get one thing right, like banning any place setting set for a child to sit at for any meal for the silverware contains lead. This country is no longer a democracy and with the decay of family and job opp. the future looks very sad
Ashley -Ban  February 18, 2009 07:55 PM
Are you serious I am a 23 year old mother and have been on a bike since I was 9 and guess what no lead poisoning what so ever I have a son who’s almost 3 and has been on a bike since before he turned 2 and guess what no lead poisoning and guess what else never put any part of a bike in his mouth. The only thing this is going to do is put more kids on the street doing drugs, vandalizing other people’s property, probably more kids in jail. So there we go having the government putting their noses in our business once again, I can see the band being put on toys that kids play with and put in their mouths but ATV’s and motor cycles come on people. I THOUGHT THIS WAS SUPOSSED TO BE A FREE COUNTRY!!!
adams family -not right  February 18, 2009 06:28 PM
kids should be able to ride if they want..... they are not chewing on there fenders
Vikki -Your joking right?  February 18, 2009 06:21 PM
Mr. Irish - Ok, so do you really think that a child can eat a motorcycle? I would like to see that. All my kids and my husband have dirt bikes and trust me none of them have ever taken a bite out of their bikes. I understand you have to watch lead based paint but come on let's get real. Now what are the people that have bikes to do when they need parts or the younger child wants a bike like big brother or sister? What about the shops? And if a child is going to eat a bike does it matter if it is a 50 or 65 or 85 or 125 or 250. Do they taste different - in other words if my child is going to eat a bike and we don't have a 50 I am sure they would go for the 125 sitting in the garage - so why take them away just because they are under 12. Get real!!!!!!
Brandon -ban  February 18, 2009 05:59 PM
Both of my kids ride JR50s and both of them have NEVER tried to eat their bikes. Whats next a ban on bullets because they contain lead. I have never heard of anybody dying from a gunshot due to lead poisoning. The majority of the people who passed this little ban grew up in houses coated with lead based paint. Maybe there is some problem with lead making you stupid if they want to spend tax payer money on a bill that is so pointless.
Joshua Kochen -Ban  February 18, 2009 04:58 PM
My wife and I have 5 kids. We all have our own dirt bikes. I purchased two dirtbikes right before christmas a klx 110 and a crf 50. I also purchased an extended warranty for them. I was told today that my warranty doesn't mean anything at all. They said that all they can do is document that the machine doesn't work. They can't fix it or get parts to fix it though. How do you explain that to a child? The dealership where they were purchased never even told us that this problem was looming in the distance. Dirtbikes are part of my family. Its the one thing that we all do together. Now what...Thanks a lot UNCLE SAM. Maybe I'll just start getting my kids some guns instead.
Mac - Who??  February 18, 2009 03:48 PM
I would really like to know who sat down and thought this one up. Someone had to of had to much time on there hands and had to justify their job (what ever that may be) and think this one up. A name,person,people,group...Who thought this one up? I would love to meet them. I mean it....Sit across the table from who ever and ask...what is really behind this. Unreal!!
Robert Deubler -ATV ban  February 18, 2009 11:22 AM
Our goverment are fool's
pete clarkson -safety for kids  February 18, 2009 09:51 AM
As a concerned motorized outdoor recreationist, I am writing to ask that you support the exemption of motorcycle and ATVs from the Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act of 2008. The dangers of lead to children cannot be ignored, but the normal use of motorcycles and ATVs pose no threat. Unnecessarily including this equipment under the Act will increase the amount of stress on not only the manufacturers, but local businesses across the nation. Debilitating these businesses further may cause irreparable damage in this challenging economy. The youth market is the foundation of our sport, and continuing to build and support that base is a top priority for OHV businesses and enthusiasts. As a voting member of the motorcycle community, I again urge you to support an amendment of CPSC Act of 2008 to remove or exempt motorcycles and ATVs from the ban guidelines. Sincerely, Pete Clarkson
Tony G. -They're Idiots...  February 18, 2009 09:46 AM
I grew up on dirt bikes and never contracted anything that our government says the kids do now. i know have 2 sons of my own and I have been looking for bikes to get them and found this while browsing the web. If the government takes all the things there is for the kids to do that will help prevent them from getting into gangs, drugs and or trouble since thats another big issue as well. They are have been getting stricter and stricter as the years have passed on what we can and can not let our children do. I have wanna know what happened to letting the parents raise there children and the parents being held responsible Lord knows my mother had to be for me. If there is cases that children are getting anything that the government says we need to BAN on then maybe the government needs to do a background check on the the families this is happening to and there again hold the parents or guardians responsible not the manufacturing companies. Dam and to think we vote these assholes in office and most of them are either old enough that there kids have grown up or they don't have any.
Raymond (REAPER) Tulumello -Bike and ATV ban for kids  February 17, 2009 10:23 PM
The government is full of SH*T. I never heard of a kid eating his ATV and getting lead poisioning. Maybe eating dirt because of a crash but thats the fun of it!! I'll tell you what, I've had a mouthfull of handlebar when I was 5 years old and I never contracted lead poisioning! This economy is trying to come back, no thanks to Uncle Sam. The dealers are barely hanging on as it is and now your "Government" wants to deliver a final blow...
Ryan -ban  February 17, 2009 07:15 PM
you know, this is bad. i mean come on, people lived like this in the ol days with alot more lead around them. this is cutting all the profits in half that goes to tracks, and shops. also how will kids learn to ride? would u rather have them on the steets doing drugs and causing problems, or have them riding dirtbikes/atvs and doing what they love and having fun?
dustinkx85 -stupid ban  February 17, 2009 06:26 PM
Im 13 years old. i havent been racing long but i dont ever want to get off my 85. If the congress or who ever knew how it feels to roll up to the line side by side when that gate drops they would probabaly change there mind.But they will probabaly never know because the got there heads so far up each others a$$es.If the ban 50-85 then alot of tracks would probably have to close because that would cut there profits in half.And we would not have any more bubba stewarts because how are they going to get good if the government wont let them ride. I dont care wat they say im ridin
BrittneyW. -WOW  February 17, 2009 06:24 PM
This is reallly dumb. People where I live either ride dirtbikes or ride ATV's or are on the street into bad stuff. If they don't have dirtbikes or ATV's all they are gunna do is get into trouble.
drury826 -ban  February 17, 2009 04:53 PM
you no this is the crazyest thing ive ever heard,this could get really bad,kids that dont have anythingto do always find themselves getting into trouble lead never hurt me an me an both of my boys grew up ridding motorcross an we arent gonna stop now this ban is a bunch of crap
nick ryan -missed spelled words  February 17, 2009 03:13 PM
my bad on the spelling
nick ryan -dumd people  February 17, 2009 03:09 PM
Really what in the world. the only dumd akids that would lick a part on a dirt bike or atv is the kids of the people who wrote is crap.Kids that ride motocross are way smarter then that we have to know how to shift and other stuff, that I bet that the gov. people dont even know how.Plus 50cc are smaller so they have less lead in them then 450cc.This is the dumbest law ever school bus have led to.
Tony DeCosmo -Ban on youth bikes.  February 17, 2009 03:07 PM
NEVER... have I heard of such ignorance! Im pretty sure a child old enough to ride a motorcycle, isnt going to be chewing on the frame, and if he does, banning the little bikes wont stop him from chewing on his Daddys CRF 450 footpeg in the garage! In a trying time, how could politics shut down so many struggling businesses? Well, maybe after they bail out the multi million dollar automobile companies, there will be a little money left to give to all the small business owner whos throats they just slit!. Now that we cant buy motorcycles for our children, all we have left is fishing... Im going to the Walmart with all my children, gonna walk down that long isle of fishing parts, all 50 feet of wall bearing assorted sizes of LEAD sinkers, and go fishing! To lose the lead sinkers on our lakes and streams! Oh crap.... I hope my kids dont mistake those sinkers for M&M's. AND TO THINK.... WE VOTED FOR THESE IDIOTS!!!
Greg -government  February 17, 2009 02:25 PM
This is what happens when we elect Democrats!!! It is only going to get worse.
ticked off -BS Ban  February 17, 2009 02:01 PM
Here is a link to a petition that you can sign to exempt the mini bikes and atvs from lead testing. I am as mad as most of you and I dont have any kids yet but it has been said before lets just keep taking away everything that kids could do just to insure they get on tv for being the next fattest person. Ok ok here is the link http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/thumpertalk
JOSH HART -typos  February 17, 2009 09:30 AM
forgive my spelling. i never claimed i could. lol
JOSH HART -lets make some change  February 17, 2009 09:24 AM
unfortunately we did this to ourselves by not paying attention to what we vote for and having the forsight to see how the bills will effect every one as a whole once passed. this country is hanging on its last thread of democracy, by deffinition is.... –noun, plural -cies. 1. government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system. 2. a state having such a form of government: The United States and Canada are democracies. 3. a state of society characterized by formal equality of rights and privileges. 4. political or social equality; democratic spirit. 5. the common people of a community as distinguished from any privileged class; the common people with respect to their political power. this means we still have the power to change and make our own standards of living. i think a lot of people have forgotten what ideas this country was built on and let our own government get to powerful and make decisions for us. we are seemingly under a dictatorship with the illusion of freedom, we have become the very thing we fought against in july of 1776! does anybody remember why we celebrate the fourth of july? freedom! i should be fee to buy my child a new 50CC bike on his birthday if i want. "you controll the people by keeping them living in feer"
JOSHUA DUCKETT -BAN  February 17, 2009 08:53 AM
Jason -Ban  February 17, 2009 08:18 AM
what next are they going to ban sales bicycles too!!!! or what about all the other alloy's kids come in contact with,water fountians at schools or door knobs or any other metals.for that matter Kids you are not allowed to have pocket change!!!
Ron Krisher -Family Fun Ban  February 16, 2009 08:04 PM
just because Mr Irish enjoyed eating lead paint chips when he was younger doesnt mean I cannot teach my grandsons to not chew on their clutch lever.guess I'll buy the 4yr old a 250r if I cannot buy a 50cc. want the boy safe!
MICHELL -KIDS  February 16, 2009 04:40 PM
Steve B -Remember next time when you vote!!  February 16, 2009 04:39 PM
This is a bigger problem than just motorcycles. Bush may have enacted this legislation but Obama let it go in effect. This proves that our elected officials cannot read at 650 words per minute. They don't read half of what they sign. As citizens we need to band together and stand up and say WE ELECTED YOU and if you don't represent us we will replace you. It is all our freedoms that are at stake not just this one. This one hits home because of our kids. It doesn't matter what political affiliation you are, we are AMERICANS and we should have the right to let our children ride whatever we (THE PARENTS) decide they should ride.
DonaldS -Youth ATV Legislation  February 16, 2009 03:16 PM
The people responsible for this are dumber than a child who would try to eat the ATV
JOSH HART -brake pads???? realy?  February 16, 2009 12:29 PM
So i went to a local dealer yesterday to buy new brake pads for my 5year old sons CRF50. Being the responsible parent i am and inspecting the bike to make sure of the mechanical function and integrity, safety being my main concern. so i noticed that the pads were a bit worn down and needed to be replaced. So i walked into the dealer to find out that all items are now contraband and illegal for them to sell me. When i got home to an excited 5 year old wanting to ride his bike it crushed me to see the disappointment and confusion on his face when he learned that he cant ride his bike. and probably wont be able to. how do I explain to a child that the government wont let you? we might as well be living in 1940 Germany. on another note, why should my 08 YZ450F be banned from national off road parks at certain times of the year? but my 2001 KX250 2stroke be able to be operated rear round? when clearly my 2stroke emits more pollutants? this government of ours needs to get their heads out off their asses and start getting priorities lined up. Get the damn ECONOMY back on track and let us have our fun with what little money we have left. at least with the gas prices down i can enjoy a nice ride one weekend.
JOSH HART -ban  February 16, 2009 11:58 AM
so the establishment makes kids feel like criminals just skate boarding around town, taking away the freedom to BMX where they want, and chase them out of all the local dirt lots we used to ride our small bikes in. and now THIS!!!??? Taking away all bikes and parts all together? damn hippies tree hugging homos. and ya know what, if your kid is stupid enough to chew on a crank case, than he deserves to get brain damage and wear a helmet, if he already doesn't. as far as i am concerned, along with all other parents who get their children involved in something constructive have always been responsible enough to keep their children out of harm while participating in such activities. for all you people making such ridiculous laws, STAY OUT OF EVERYONE'S BUSINESS and focus on your own life. we dont need you striping our individuality and extra curricular activities. there is harm in everything you do in life. and pissing off a whole community of off road enthusiasts is harmful enough. i wont hesitate to chuck a piston at your head! how does that lead feel now?
D N -What are kids gonna do now?  February 16, 2009 07:27 AM
Go out and really get into trouble? Me and my son stay close because we race or ride every weekend we can. I am his mechanic, driver, coach, and friend. Everyone I have met in this sport is staying close to their kids and that keeps them busy and not trying to get into real trouble, with gangs or drugs or whatever else. Also with the unemployment rate going up, shops are having to lay off more workers cause they are not able to sell bikes or parts. What a peice of work the government is doing to hurt us!
Steven -ban  February 16, 2009 07:07 AM
I'm 25 only been riding a year, I wish I had started at a younger age but now seems kids won't have a chance. It's rediculous, granted I've only been riding for a year, but I've never seen a kid sit down and start knawing on his bike.
nick upstate ny -bullS#!t  February 16, 2009 06:18 AM
this country might as well be a communist country you cant do anything without the government sticking there nose in it tax the hell out of ya the take all your fun away
Allen Albrecht -Ban  February 16, 2009 05:49 AM
I also grew up riding atv's and motorcycles and I certainly feel that ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO RIDE SHOULD BE GIVEN THAT CHANCE NO MATTER HOW YOUNG OR OLD.
Bill Boyer -Ban on Small Bikes  February 15, 2009 11:31 PM
Stupid, stupid, Stupid, is the only word for the CPSC. If they want to consider these small bikes as toys, then we should be able to ride them on the sidewalk, and streets like other toys. And how about the Green Sticker money I paid, toys don't need green stickers. Write your public officials and demand a refund for your green sticker money, that should add up to about a million or so $$$. I'll bet that will slow down the CPSC. Tell your elected officials to stop funding the CPSC with your tax dollars. Protecting small children is one thing, Stupidity is another! "I didn't start the fight, but I'll do whatever I can to end it."
Family of 5 that RIDES -WTF  February 15, 2009 09:35 PM
I think one of the best points made is that what are the kids who love to go every weekend going to do now, sure there is other things to do but let the kids have that choice, MORE KIDS ARE HURT PLAYING REC SPORTS EVERY YEAR THAN ATV DIRTBIKES COMBINED, WAY TO PUNISH OUR KIDS AND YOUTH FOR YOUR STUPIDITY!
KCC, NYS District 3 -?????  February 15, 2009 05:14 PM
I haven't seen a kid try to lick their plastics or valve stems while they are riding. as far as the machine being parked and this happening, what is the differance if a 50cc or a 450cc machine is parked they could still get thier mouths on the same parts. I don't really get it.
ace -freedom  February 15, 2009 03:37 PM
The commies have infiltrated ,time for the malitia guys, read our for fathers writings on this .Have you had enough yet to take your country back from them ?
Joe Roth -easy way to take action  February 15, 2009 02:14 PM
AMA's government relations staff has set up a Legislative Alert at http://www.amadirectlink.com/legisltn/rapidresponse.asp. This system works incredibly well because it is easy for people to do (you don't even have to be an AMA member) and it results in a letter that goes to the person's US Representative and Senators. Letters are treated more seriously by elected officials than phone calls and also, AMA can track them and report the totals to Congress.
AMaine -Ban  February 15, 2009 11:41 AM
FIRST i was upset because i didn't get my son his new 65 yet to race this year, Now i'm wondering IF there will be any races AT ALL this year. Think about it ........ If they BANNED youth ICE SKATES, How many ice rinks would OR could have youth hockey games... What insurance company would insure a track owner letting children ride a banned/ illegal machine ???? I have been looking on the net for days now,And haven't found out anything on any changes being made
Robert -This is total crap!!  February 15, 2009 09:44 AM
It's not fair to the children who have been riding for so many years and love the sport. It will only push our kids into boredom which can lead to drug use and other problems. They are now devprived of a healthy outlet and a bonding experience with other kids who love the sport. As long as I can find a way to let them ride I will continue to do so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Robert Murray -milwaukee mike  February 15, 2009 08:48 AM
It is sad to think people who by HD are so ignorant to think they are made in America now. You should really research what you are buying before you make that statement. The majority of parts on a HD now days are from another country such as China and Japan. It would only be safe to say they are Assembled in America. Obviuosly you are someone who went through a midlife crisis had to get a HD to make yourself fell younger. If you were someone who grew up riding motorcycles you would have a different opinion.
Robert Murray -Concerned Parent.  February 15, 2009 08:44 AM
I commend you on your response to John Irish. Motorcycles have been a huge part of my life as well as my family's life. I have childen now and as a police officer I see the worst in life. Teaching kids how to ride motorcycles and getting them involved in that type of recreation will keep them away from the worst in life. This is just one more ban on a child's life which people who do not know what they are talking about created. I will keep my comments about the newly elected so called president to myself. Will we see in the future just how intellegent he is.
Robert Murray -Ban  February 15, 2009 08:34 AM
I have been on motorcycles my hole life. I raced motocross for years and now have kids of my own. My boy, who is getting ready to turn 3 years of age only wants a dirt bike since dad has one. I think it is saddening to think this sport will be taken from children. We wonder why America's kids are getting fatter. Taking another outdoor sport away from them will just put kids in front of the TV playing the motocross games on their playstations rather than riding the motorcycles for real. This ban should be lifted. I have never heard of a child getting lead poisoning from a dirt bike or ATV.
Alex Dorton -Wow, are you kidding?  February 15, 2009 07:07 AM
How can you ban something like this for the reason of lead? As if any kid eats on the bikes. Some kids don't even like to work on their own bikes. I started riding when I was five, and who knows where I would have been if I wasn't at the track every weekend since? Its so sad to see a group of people ruin so many kids dreams and hopes, even if they have already been riding for so long. This is complete bullshit and it needs to be stopped before it goes any farther or there will be very many angry kids and parents. PROUD AMA MEMBER!
JJayne -rediculous  February 14, 2009 06:02 PM
who in their right mind could come up with something so ridiculous like this, you mean to tell me that their going to band riding lawn mowers also? what will 50% of the young riders parents do who have invested thousands of dollars into a FAMILY sport? To anybody who agrees with this idea obviously has never had kids who enjoy the sport. this is a load of crap, it's like growing up without a bicycle because some bike's had lead paint on them. This will also cause job loss for mx tracks. There will be less and less professionals because people wont be able to start riding at age 5 or 6. i grew up around dirt bikes and i got my bike when i was 5 years old. I've never licked, ate, or anything like that with my motorcycle we wear gloves whenever working on the bikes, that's like taking away all fast food places saying it's bad for you. I mean come on people would you rather have your kid out on the streets doing drugs or drinking alcohol? CONSIDER THIS. PROUD AMA MEMBER
victor smith -ban  February 14, 2009 03:51 PM
Congradulations you've effectivly made it harder to combat boredom & drug use amongst our children, but now they they are also devprived of a healthy outlet and a bonding experience for parents and children.
beckyb -can't believe this  February 14, 2009 02:36 PM
Is there anything that President Bush did right? My son was looking forward to his first year at some local track's in PA and now his YZ TW 50 will see nothing more than our backyard, pap's fields, and sister's track and thank god we have that! But what about the many who don't, where are they supposed to learn the ropes? Sending kids out on 85's at 13 with no real track experience is a certain danger, and out numbers the slim to nothing chance that my 7 year old would rather eat a battery terminals or lick a tire valve stems, than ride the bike! Contact your legislators so they can right where Bush once again went wrong.
kk -something wrong  February 14, 2009 01:41 PM
hi, i dont understand why you would do this to a person, you must think that we have some issues, well ur wrong. many of us love to ride,but ALLOT of us ride for our lives! sooner and later we will all stand up to this rediculious nonsence. how about banding somethin that will help, instead of crushing people dreams and passions. if u think this is gonna help you might as well just put us in the happy place..were we can all wear straight jackets, and eat mush and readd kiddy books. People just becuase your children are eating parts doesnt mean you have to band it from us. (the ones who ride for the enjoyment not THE TASTE. bring back the motorcycles!
Kevin Brown -Ban  February 13, 2009 08:25 PM
Insulting. Last time I checked I've never seen a ten year (any child) old sucking on a battery terminal or a crank shaft at the race track or at the local dealer ship. Stupidity at it's peak!
Carla Brachais -New Law  February 13, 2009 04:52 PM
This is just another way to waste taxpayers money. If a child is responsible enough to have his/her own motorcycle they are far beyond chewing on motorcycle parts. This law should apply to infants and toddlers not kids that are 12 years old. In this state 12 years old is the legal age to baby sit. To be responsible for the care of children. Clearly the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing up there in Sacramento. Maybe with nothing for a kid to do they will be more likely to end up in trouble. Whoever wrote this law is desperate to be recognized for something. The stupidest law there is.
jmsgen -stop complaining and do something about it . . .  February 13, 2009 02:31 PM
rememebr the governement works for the people, please take the time and actually do something about it. If you oppose speak up, if you are for the issue, encourage your politicians that they are doing the right thing. Most importantly get out and vote.
Travis Davidson -Ban  February 13, 2009 02:30 PM
This is a complete joke!!!! Do you really think kids are going to eat the parts on there motorcycle! yea since you know us kids love the taste of plastic and metal right?? what a joke! You have NO idea what this sport means to us! all you old government people think you can just take away anything you want from us. you think your doing something good, and your wrong!!! The government is a joke
Ethan -atv ban  February 12, 2009 09:55 PM
Thank you Dean H. for those links I have sent the emails and posted them on every forum I frequent. WHATEVER HAPPENED TO LAISSEZ FAIRE!?!?!?!?!
Ed Spear -Lead Insanity  February 12, 2009 09:13 PM
There are areas in our country that have amazingly high lead levels. Any female of child bearing age can transfer high levels to an unborn fetus. Is the government going to tell us we can't have kids anymore as well. I will not stop my kids from riding motorcycles as long as can keep everything running. You would think that the war in drugs would be a higher priority, the last I checked more children and adults die from drugs and the activities of such than high blood lead levels.
Dean H. -Some contact links to help all help us  February 12, 2009 08:49 PM
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/5/2382/Motorcycle-Article/Lead-Ban-Stops-Youth-ATV-and-Motorcycle-Sales.aspx http://www.amadirectlink.com/legisltn/rapidresponse.asp Here are some links that include petitions and form letters that can be sent. Everyone has to be on board with this, so we can show these idots exactly who thier dealing with. http://www.cpsc.gov/cgibin/info.aspx http://www.tomself.com/ www.amadirectlink.com http://gnccracing.com/articles/912_youth-racing-jeopordized.-act-now-ama-update
Mini Me -BAn  February 12, 2009 08:35 PM
Just market them to midgets.
kirk -ban  February 12, 2009 06:01 PM
what is our government going to do next. take our guns. tell dr.s what surgeries you can get.
Joe Mama -More idiot laws at work!  February 12, 2009 06:00 PM
Im north of 40 and grew up with lead paint, lead batteries, lead pipes in our house (that we drank thousand of gallons of water out of) and myself and all of my family AND friends are still alive, well and kicking. I seriously doubt lead in certain parts of ATVs (that kids aren't eating or drinking) will have any effect what-so-ever on kids health. Id rather then ride ATV's that talk on a cell phone, thats the next big wave of cancer in my opinion. J0E
john M -IRISH OR NOT  February 12, 2009 04:32 PM
I told my 2 kids that if i catch them eating there dirt bikes,i would kick the s_it out of them. They looked at me with a puzzle on there face!!
Joseph Vietri -Lead ban  February 12, 2009 04:18 PM
There must be some alterior(sp) motive for this. It can't be based primarily on the health and safety of kids that don't eat or lick or hardly touch the parts in question. There will be tons of pain felt by all if this goes as deep as I think it will.
Ms Films -John Irish  February 12, 2009 11:41 AM
This is truly bull crap. everything in the world now is like causing cancer, contains lead or has to do with global warming. I am fed up with it! Just because of one downtown gangster who rides his bike in the street puts a bad name for all of us. They see him on the street decide to investigate it and Oh look lets slam all of the riders down that ride. Considering a large amount of riders and almost all riders are 12 and under that just shut down half of Loretta Lynn's, Ponca City, Mini O's and every other flipping organization in America! So gfy let US ride!!!
Joe S. -A new father that is concerned  February 12, 2009 05:47 AM
If this really lasts I believe this will devastate U.S. power sports racing, and the simple fact that in the future I will not be able to teach my son (who just turned 4 months old) the enjoyment and discipline behind off-road motorcycling. You can learn so much from this sport it is amazing. The sport craves fitness, concentration, and confidence. Who are you to deny my right to teach my son a sport I love and respect. Also I can guarantee you that my son my will go down when learning to ride but he will not eat paint chips off the motorcycle frame or chew on the battery terminals. I hope with all my heart that you will reconsider this horrible thing you have tried to enforce and leave these decisions up child's parents. Thank you for your time. Joe Shumate
Shu -You Have Got to Be Kidding!!!  February 11, 2009 11:48 PM
This law is absolutely ridiculous. I guess I have to tell my five year old son to stop eating his motorcycle. Luckily he can ride in our RZR, I better shut up or big brother may take that away as well. If we can't purchase parts to keep the bikes running we should drop them off in the front of the White House and turn it into the junk yard it has become. What's next, dirt will be on the endangered list? We need to contact our officials and voice our rights to a tradition that has been ripped away over something not proven. I have never seen any statistics relating motorcycles to lead poisoning. There are plenty of other things they could be governing that are more harmful to our children. Ex. Have you seen all the nasty tatoos in the NBA. Quit taking the fun out of life. People writing on this thread supporting this law are probably the tree hugging democrats living off welfare spending our tax dollars instead of getting a job and having a life.
Dan B. -John Irish  February 11, 2009 06:09 PM
I've given up trying to reason with people like you. If I knew it was you on the street I think you know what I'd do. Believe it.
Russ -Revolt  February 11, 2009 05:35 PM
So I think its getting close for another revolution I'm really tired of this government not looking at the big picture and taking our freedoms away. Lets load up the guns,bats,torches and bikes and take this country back from the idiot pigs that keep taking our freedoms away that so many people have died for. maybe they will listen when they feel helpless. How about we dont pay taxes and use the money in a better way. Remember WE as the nation are paying for this with our money and freedom. Maybe they will wake up when we stop the flow of money. What will they do without the allmighty dollar
madmike -Get ready for communism  February 11, 2009 05:30 PM
Are freedom is at jeapordy! We as parents can go to jail for not sending are kids to school but we are not responsible enough to make sure that are kids are not sitting in the back yard eating a four wheeler or a nice scooter I feel that this world is going down the damn drain sorry to say!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wacey Thorpe -Ban  February 11, 2009 05:06 PM
Hi i am 13 years old and i have raced all my life and its the only sport i like to do all of the other ones are boring and i think the ban is the worst!!! because u took my favorite sport away and i think its the funnest thing ever. What do you guys think me and my friends are going to eat are dirt bikes or the parts. I just dont get it
Mark N. Wisconsin -I'm there  February 11, 2009 04:14 PM
My first point is addressed to "Concerned Parent". You have apparently have missed the point. The folks reading this information or adding to the list of comments are not doing so to get a grip on the inadequacies of some with their communications skills. You must not be aware there is a subject listed at the top of the article. Perhaps you sucked on your leaking thermometer too long. Go find another forum for yer cumplantz! Mr. Irish. You are a Nancy Boy. Go stick you head in the sand. A wet bucket of concrete may be better. I myself will be out policing the area for violators and knocking kids out of their lead-laddened wheel chairs, in order to protect them! I suppose the "take your kid fishing day" will soon be outlawed as well, what with all the mercury contaminated fish! Our legislators must eat lots of fish, as it is apparent they have been contaminating their brains due to having their heads up their proverbiable asses! And seriously folks, take a tip from Jim (Feb. 11 post). Do a little research, educate yourself and be heard!
Chris -I hate john irish  February 11, 2009 04:08 PM
I work at a dealership in MD, I am 21 yrs old and have raced motocross for 17 yrs. I can't believe the attempt being made to destroy an industry that provides children with an activity that can't be compared to. If you have ever been to loretta lynns and seen the upcoming stars of the future you would understand. Motocross is a family oriented event that should be experienced by all.
TH -This ban is just an inevitable step in our loss of freedoms, that we need to fight!  February 11, 2009 02:50 PM
Twenty years ago, I was working with organizations to stop the helmet law in California. I know I'm safer with one on, but that wasn't the point. Freedom was the point. I remember going to all the dealerships in the area, the Harley dealer contributed money. The Honda, Yamaha, and Kawasaki dealers refused to help, saying they supported the law. I tried to tell them, the helmet law was just the first step, and if you don't support my freedom, and my freedom was lost, yours would soon follow. They laughed at me, and said "they'll never ban dirt bikes! etc., etc." Welcome to the club, I still believe in freedom, and this travesty makes me sad, but it is so predictable. The more power and money you give government, the more that government will use it to control your lives, and the greedier that government will become, as it demands more of youre money and takes more of your freedom. With the new administration, its going to get worse. Our politicians are experts in divide and conquer, and they are experts in writing innocuous sounding laws that have unintended - or maybe fully intended - consequences like this. Think about this the next time that Joe down the street asks you to contribute to the NRA, or the next time Sam tries to get you to sign a petition to stop the smog nazis from banning his 1946 Merc cuz it doesn't have a catalytic converter. Or the next time some city councilwoman rails against Pop Warner football, saying it teaches young kids "violence".....
RL -Only you can stop your child from eating his/her motorcycle.  February 11, 2009 11:16 AM
So far, my son hasn't eaten his yet. This sort of legislation comes from the type of increasingly large government the majority of this nation seems to want unfortunately. The 'government should take care of me' mentality sure seems to be popular. A whole host of people were elected in November who intend to increase the size of government to further regulate (uh, 'improve' - sorry) the lives of citizens. (I'm aware that this particular law was enacted last summer) We're guaranteed to see more of this type of thing now. Our new president is making this perfectly clear. (Just to toss this out there... nobody I voted for was elected)
Bob -Seriously  February 11, 2009 10:10 AM
Lead is in the Earth's crust at an abundance of around 13-20 PPM!!! We need to ban the Earth's crust quickly before some 70 IQ bastard kid starts eating it. HELP!!!
RM 100 rider -Who thought this bill up?  February 11, 2009 09:51 AM
This is totally outrageous. Why not only put the ban in effect for new models that are being produced or new replacement parts?!! Obviously the people who cae up with this bill don't have children because this is going to break a lot of kids hearts!!!
Jim -Its B to the S.  February 11, 2009 08:30 AM
Ok a little more homework on my part gave me some info. Apparently, the main take is that now kids quads and ATV's have to be saftey inspected and meet child safety product guidelines. Its not necessarily the 'end of an era' but it does probably mean a certification program that will eventually cost the consumer. CSPC.GOV is the place to find the info, if you can stomach a truckload of legal happyspeak you may get through it. http://www.cpsc.gov/ABOUT/Cpsia/faq/faqs.html defines a childrens product The actual item: http://www.cpsc.gov/ABOUT/Cpsia/section232.html (but the dates are not showing any cut off date as today) I wonder how this affects other small youth vehicles.... go-peds, go-karts, etc. Go_Ped USA ARE YOU READING THIS?? If it is a YOUTH MARKET MOTORSPORTS PRODUCT, ITS BANNED UNTIL CERTIFIED! Ya gotta know that the karts and scoots from China are basically dipped in lead right? How about BICYCLES? They have the SAME valve stems and 'metal alloys' that include lead. This is completely insane. Last time I went to the Desert with my son Richie, when he rode his quad, I dont recall seeing him chew on it.... W T wholy F is this all about?
Idiot Irish -John Irish, they will ban your cell phone next.  February 11, 2009 07:10 AM
Give me a break, they are banning a recreational vehicle because of it's lead content. I can guarantee your automobile has more lead in it than these motorcycles, and our children ride in them every day to school. Perhaps we should ban school buses next? If you think this ban makes sense and is "protecting our children" you are a fool. I suppose you would be happy if the government forced you to keep your child in a dark padded room to avoid sun damage, fed nothing but non-choking slush, and reading only friendly happy books. Maybe you like living like veal, but I do not. I would rather die than live in a world in which I farmed like an animal. Wake up. They are farming us for our money, and building the fence around us while we graze on television and carefully crafted political distractions.
TH -This ban is just an inevitable step in our loss of freedoms  February 10, 2009 11:45 PM
Twenty years ago, I was working with organizations to stop the helmet law in California. I know I'm safer with one on, but that wasn't the point. Freedom was the point. I remember going to all the dealerships in the area, the Harley dealer contributed money. The Honda, Yamaha, and Kawasaki dealers refused to help, saying they supported the law. I tried to tell them, the helmet law was just the first step, and if you don't support my freedom, and my freedom was lost, yours would soon follow. They laughed at me, and said "they'll never ban dirt bikes! etc., etc." Welcome to the club, I still believe in freedom, and this travesty makes me sad, but it is so predictable. The more power and money you give government, the more that government will use it to control your lives, and the greedier that government will become, as it demands more of youre money and takes more of your freedom. With the new administration, its going to get worse. Our politicians are experts in divide and conquer, and they are experts in writing innocuous sounding laws that have unintended - or maybe fully intended - consequences like this. Think about this the next time that Joe down the street asks you to contribute to the NRA, or the next time Sam tries to get you to sign a petition to stop the smog nazis from banning his 1946 Merc cuz it doesn't have a catalytic converter. Or the next time some city councilwoman rails against Pop Warner football, saying it teaches young kids "violence".....
Greg J. -e-mail the senators please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  February 10, 2009 09:32 PM
Sooner or later enough of the people will get fed up with this nonsense. Then we can stand up and make a difference. I wonder why the manufactures of rv's and atv's don't fight more for freedom. They will be the ones to suffer in the end. It seams like they sell us this stuff, then quietly laugh while we leave, knowing there is fewer and fewer places to use them. I just don't get what is so bad about riding dirt bikes?????????????
Bucktorious -you're still here  February 10, 2009 09:08 PM
I'm only 22, so I might be a little out of my element, but most people over that ago of 40 remember playing with murcury in school, they're still alive, now when a thermometer breaks in science class, they close the school for 3 days for a clean-up. Lead was used in gasoline for over 90 years, and people are still around. anyway, I think it's a case of survival of the fittest. If you have common sense, you won't go around licking all the motorcycles you see. There is ever more funding for computers in schools, and there is a lot of scary stuff in there, why are they in elementary schools? electricity is also scary, with about 600 people a year dying because of it, so any house with kids has to be electricity free. My suggestion is that the law is changed to children 5 and under,
jonathon mozingo -sad day for the mozingos  February 10, 2009 07:51 PM
I am eleven and was racing about for 2 years. I was happy when i could race with my bro. but now i have to wait about 2 years! me and my bro was starting a team in 2009 called MOZINGO RACING! thanks to people in our world i have to wait to start our team. my dream was to make it AMA but now my dream is ruined :( SAD DAY FOR THE MOZINGOS
Chris Mozingo -SAD DAY FOR RACING FAMILES  February 10, 2009 07:32 PM
I dont think riding or racing is the worst thing for my kids, in fact i very very strongly disagree ! In the last couple of years my family has become a racing family,we practice together,race together,we are always together. And racing the mo.st.mx has introduced us to 300 families just like us with good old fashioned familiy values. Keeping my kids off the streets and off drugs and alcohol and in school with "b" averages has been my main concern. Why dont you remove all the things that are realy bad for my kids like, peanutbutter, or child molesting school teachers. There are more dangerous things than my kids racing! AMA AND PROUD !!!!!
Suzie -This law affects everyone  February 10, 2009 03:09 PM
Please contact your congressman and tell them that you want the law reformed. There are thrift stores throwing books in the trash today because the CPSC told them better safe than sorry. I want products for ALL persons safe not just children but this law has been poorly written without regard to economic impact (which is a law in itself) and with deadlines that are impossible to conform with. This is our freedom folks, being taken away one little toy at a time. Many do not realize how far reaching this is law is: All children's clothing must be test for lead and or phthalates. All jewelry for chilren. All furniture for children. The list goes on and on. Don't have kids? If you think that the costs of testing children's products won't be passed on to you, you better think about that again.
KevinB -Ha!  February 10, 2009 02:56 PM
Its cause a law person's cousin's nephew's brother-in-laws great aunt had her foot ran over by a kid on a bike. The best way to prevent that in the governments eyes is to ban them. Safety classes and gear are way over rated, lets find a reason to ban them... Thank you USSA.... Land of the FREE my A......
WAKE UP AMERICA -YOUTH ATV LAW  February 10, 2009 08:33 AM
chris w -ban  February 9, 2009 08:06 PM
ive been riding since four and chewed on my swingarm and wheels for 20+ years and im fine. should these people be focusing on making jobs not destroying them. i can understand banning a doll or something similiar. but the mini market namely the klx110 and crf50 probaly has more adults building and riding them than children.
John N -Lead Ban is B.S  February 9, 2009 01:26 PM
Shannon -I can't believe this!  February 9, 2009 09:04 AM
My fiance' and I own a motorcycle/atv shop, we are stuggling to begin with because of the economy and being the off season, this is ridiculous to say the least, please everyone help stop this.
John W. -atv sale ban  February 8, 2009 05:26 PM
Has anyone considered writing to their congressman/woman about this issue? Getting a petition together online, or locally in your neighborhood? I am doing that as we speak! I am fed up with this! We race nationally, and there are about 7 kids on just this one team. That doesnt count the other 200 in this circuit alone! Come on people! Find out who your congressman/woman is and lets get this thing apealed!!!
andrew t. yarrington ,washington st., -outlawing minibikes,miniquads etc.  February 8, 2009 12:08 PM
totally stupid, what is the government going to take from us next. what a joke ,I and my family and thousands of other familys have been on or around motorcycles for years,decades etc.why dosen't the government start cleaning up the water so people can eat the fish they catch, drinking or swimming in most waterways throughout the usa is probebly more dangerous that being around motorcycles, what next our cars aren't safe either there made from the same materials etc. and billions of kids ride in them everyday. boy I'm worryed about the quality of life my kids kids will have because all, my kids have grow up riding ,just like I did and all my friends and there familys have also, you know in world where there are so many other things that the government could be addressing ,they choose this to fix and deem unsafe , what joke ,can the public stop this stupity....
rj -where's the lead  February 8, 2009 09:27 AM
where is the lead in a motorcycle I don't understand the problem?
Troy McClure -lead, delicious but deadly  February 8, 2009 06:17 AM
Hi kids, I'm televisions' Troy McClure, you may remember me from such education films as "Lead Paint, delicious but deadly" and "Here Comes the Metric System" When handguns are outlawed, only outlaws will have handguns, or three wheelers, or lawn darts, or monkey bikes.
TS -welcome to new world order USASS  February 6, 2009 12:16 PM
This Is where we are headed next it will be save the ants. what will we do if we don't have more gov to tell use what color toilet paper to use.Hay I beleve in safe toys and clothing food water; But My children don;t eat there motocycles, lick,sniff,or take a bath with it. They where gloves, helmit,bouts,cloting,shin gardes,neck brace,kidney belt,googles how is he even going to make direct contact with bike . MaYbe he will suck in exsaust? no that doesent have lead in it,wait a min maybe grind motocycles up and put it in there water? no that want work it would not taste wright just like this abserd goverment act. I bet everyone that put this togetter never road a motocycle and have no consept of what an American pastime it is for familys and give our children that sence of self confedence and freedom that come with getting on a motocycle and ride any whitch way you want to go I started When i was 5 and I don't no anyone who has been sick from motocycles Is there a record of anyone ever. lead in motocycles is not what this is about it's just one way for them to have more control little bit at a time. blind edialogy and control. Just like that bill there talking about milage tax on all vehicals I'M sure they also mean motocycles. yea they need more taxes because the car are going further on a tank of gas so this means less gas revenue well there not going to get my guns ether.so stand up and make your voice count some times one more vote counts. My spelling suck so mabe they will make a law no bad gramer
SteveB -Great, just great!  February 6, 2009 11:54 AM
And the newly elected former 1/2 term junior senator from Illinois has issued a hold on all federal agencies preventing them from issuing new regs or relief until the white house has had a chance to review this. That could take months. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090120/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_regulations_1 Both parties are to blame for this nanny state stupidity. But remember, "It's for the children."
bob -this stinks  February 5, 2009 07:00 PM
the sad thing is that the china bikes(the very small china atvs)have up to 110 motors and are listed as 12 or 16 years and up.
KevinT -Unintended Consequences  February 5, 2009 11:18 AM
Lets look at what will really happen here. The motorcycle/atv industry has gone to great lengths to develop age appropriate atvs and motorcycles. This law prohibits the sale of these machines - this just means that people will be putting kids on larger machines, not covered by the ban, not safe for their age, and with more lead per machine than the smaller machines - where's the logic?
JackC -Does anybody use common sense anymore?  February 5, 2009 08:38 AM
Many of these components are used on tricycles and bicycles can you imagine childhood without them? Are they next?
Frankie D. -we should stop quibbling  February 5, 2009 07:54 AM
Most folks reading and responding are not using spell check but is that really the issue here? Remember, this ruling is on lead levels and should not be considered a direct attack on our sport. However, it will be collaterally damaged - fatally. This ruling is apparently not well thought out and is alarming to those it limits unreasonably. We have to work together to stop the nonsense. The real foolishness is the confusion and bluster surrounding perception of danger and of lifestyles different from one another. There are mistakes in language affecting our way of life. The sloppy use of our language has allowed to all sorts of people to misunderstand many things. Lead content should be a concern when it makes sense to eliminate it. Change is destructive so we need to be careful what we change and how fast we change. Eliminating lead in toys used by small children sounds like a great idea so we need to be careful not to throw the baby out with the lead laden bathwater. When a child enters the motorsports world it is usually under strict supervision or at least should be. Washing hands before eating is always a good idea and so on; we instruct our children to be careful as they navigate our dangerous world where we are. We should not fight each other but call on those making the rules to be sensible and accurate. Lead paint on blocks? Bad. On motorcycle or bicycle frames? Not so bad. How hard is this really? Maybe race gas with lead in it at race tracks frequented by small children is bad? Maybe washing hands is enough or not. Let's figure it out. Knee jerk reactions in any direction can lead to getting kicked in the teeth. We should go back to making more of our own tools, toys and machines - that is for sure.
jq -ban  February 4, 2009 06:39 PM
I think this is a bunch of crap. our country is already broke now this ban is going to cost more jobs,add bankruptcy,close businesses. most and foremost rob our kids of their childhood. come on let our kids have a life. I know my kids are smart enough not to eat their motorcycles just cause yours isn't don't punish us.
milwaukee mike -ban  February 4, 2009 01:31 PM
We should be glad that the only companys involved in this ban are not American. I'd feel different if the ban included HD. But Harley is smart enough not to build kids toys. Buy American and stay employed. Buy foreign and be a loser.
Sam -Some Stats  February 4, 2009 12:45 PM
The percentage of children with elevated blood lead levels has decreased dramatically in the past three decades, from 88.2 percent in 1976-1980 to 1.6 percent in 1999-2002.(childtrendsdatabank.org) Are swingsets around the country going to be ripped from the playgrounds and parks as well? There's a fine line between protection and imposition.
Valorie -Ban  February 4, 2009 11:46 AM
I can see the government trying to protect the children but banning motorcycles isn't the answer. They should start going after all the parents that do not put their children in proper gear. To often I see kids with little or no gear which results in injury and even death. I am not sure about all you intellectual parents out there but my kids don't gnaw on their bikes. My kids have been through safety courses and are well supervised on the tracks and the desert. I have enough big bother in my life and my business. The last thing I need them to tell me is how to spend my free time. For all of you who think this is a brilliant idea lets ban skateboards, bikes, and the very cars you drive to work because of lead. One step further lets sit on the couch and eat chips because the government has banned everything after all we are the most obese country in the world. Don't ruin my fun.
Tim Shorter -ban  February 4, 2009 09:26 AM
Motorcycles are dangerous....period. Lead poisons people, includeing children. Removing lead and especially motorcycles will at least give children a little longer lease on life. The Government has the right to protect the citizens of our country. Lets give thanks to President Bush and his past administration. Screw OB for not even thinking of our kids.
K. Rust -John Irish  February 3, 2009 04:04 PM
I guess you failed to notice that this law was enacted August 14, 2008 before Obama was even president-elect. You should be thanking George W. Bush. Somehow I'm guessing you probably couldn't bring yourself to do that though.
Concerned Parent -John Irish  February 3, 2009 03:53 PM
Dear Mr. Irish, I am sorry to see that our great nation has failed you so completely. I am ashamed to see that the educational system, the one that I will entrust my child to in a few short years, has produced a person who obviously lacks a good grasp of the English language and proper grammar. I’ll point out a few errors in your comment. “I’d don’t understand,” should read, “I don’t understand.” Moving on, in the middle of a sentence the word government doesn’t need to be capitalized. I can only assume that “whelled” is “wheeled.” Parents should not let THEIR children eat paint chips. The word you used, “there,” is for used to mean something different. For example, “John Irish is sitting over there on his computer reading about motorcycles on the internet.” We create more environmental toxins than most of the rest of the world, sir, so importing a few from China should be the least of our concerns. A legislator makes laws, I have no idea what a “ledgeslator” is. We only have one country, therefore you should end this sentence “stand up for our country’s youth,” not “countries.” Countries is the plural version. Emitting is spelled as I have just spelled it. Our nation’s (notice the apostrophe, you missed it) carbon footprint would be better reduced by carpooling than by stopping children from riding motorcycles. I assume by “Lets” you mean “Let’s,” meaning “Let us,” and “assess” not “access.” I hope people aren’t aroused by this article. Notice aroused is spelled with only one “r.” I believe those people who are concerned with the passage of this law and the potential effect it has on their family’s recreational practices have put forth more effort in keeping their family together just by riding motorcycles than many, if not most, American families. You could say “the family that plays together, stays together,” but that is slightly cliché. Motorcycling with children, whether racing, trail riding or some other variation, helps them build character, responsibility and can help keep them interested in something other than drugs, violence and alcohol as they enter adolescence and young adulthood. Sir, I am sincerely sorry that our educational system has failed you so completely. I hope President Obama does something to help educate our children, rather than stop them from enjoying the positive and rewarding hobby that is motorcycling.
BC -John Irish  February 3, 2009 02:35 PM
Are you kidding me? You are obviously not a motorcycle enthusiast and have no business being on this site. I think its great that legislators keep lead toxins out of our children's toys, but use your brain. How many kids are chewing on their valve-stems? Sure my children might be safer if they were not allowed to ride motorcycles, I guess I shouldn't let them ride in the car either. Probably shouldn't let them ride the bicycle or walk down the sidewalk. I should put them in a giant bubble in a padded room. Motorcycles provide my children a fun family activity and with proper supervision it is as safe as anything out there. I could go on forever about this subject, but would only be wasting my time with you.
John Irish -Kids motorcycle and ATV ban  February 3, 2009 02:07 PM
I'd don't understand why parents could get upset about the Government trying to protect our children? I can remember back several years ago when 3 whelled ATCs were banned. That action saved the lives of thousands of people (especially children). Would those parents let there kids eat paint chips? With all the lead and toxins imported into this country from China, we should be glad that there are ledgeslators not afraid to stand up for our countries youth. And the banning of these pollution emiting toys will have a positive effect on this nations carbon footprint. Lets access our needs and look to the future before getting unduly arroused. Thank God we have finally elected a forward thinking person to head this great nation we call The USA. I personally thank President Obama for helping to change the course of this country and the rest of the planet.
Francis M. De Simone -are you kidding me?  February 3, 2009 01:13 PM
this is a pile of crap! how can this happen? I wish I could be more articulate - but what the #&*(%#$$#$* A wonderful family way of life is about to be put in the toilet we race and it is fun and gives us a wonderful focus to participate with a comunity of hard working folks and which by association has protected many many children from drugs and other pitfalls common to the dissapation of families during the adolescent years. Racing is a family effort and kids that do it approeciate their families in a special and unique way hard to match with almost any other activity.
GJ-J -copy and paste  February 3, 2009 09:12 AM
The copy and paste helped a lot. There's so much I wanna say that I don't know where to start. Thanks for makin' it easy.
JC -Tough Times  February 3, 2009 08:49 AM
KTM pulled the plug on its Jr. Supercross program as well. Of course, they dumped tons of money into that for an entire decade. I think they should be commended for providing opportunities and taking chances on youth programs like the SX and Rookies Cup. European bikes are expensive when the economy is doing well, so I'm sure they're being punished already.
Redleg -Take a few minutes and e-mail your Senators and Rep.  February 3, 2009 06:18 AM
It only takes a couple of minutes to do a copy/paste from the links above. BTW: JC- KTM needs to be punished for bailing on the kids in the US Rookie Cup. That's the last company anyone in this country needs to support right now. Keep that in mind if you want to talk about "Orange goodness" again.
JesseW. -ban  February 2, 2009 07:51 PM
I grew up on atv's and motorcycles recieving my first atv at the age of 5 and motorcycle at 10. I cannot think of where my life would be without them. They have taken over so much that i decided to become a mechanical engineer so i could better understand just how motorcycles work. To deprive young kids of growing up with something that could have that type of impact in their lives just because there is lead in a valve stem is saddening.