bill - cheaters   July 24, 2010 05:25 AM
the whole vid there saying how the buell is so much faster just proves the point and anyways look who won in 2009 the buell NOT FAIR whats next a new 2500cc v-twin against the 1000cc I-4

VinceXB - Duh!  April 7, 2010 07:41 AM
I'm a Buell fanboy, so take my comments however you want but I think I'm pretty down the middle on this one. I get everyone's complaint about 125cc vs 600cc. Perhaps a fairer matchup would be a 800 or 900 cc V twin vs a 600cc I-4, but neither Buell or Aprilia built a sportbike in that displacement. Keep in mind, this was a bone stock comparo. One of the big V-twins was going to win no matter what. However, it's interesting to hear all the comments about how great the Buell handled and how far behind the Aprilia was. Handling has nothing to do with displacement. The Buell is simply a better handling machine than the competition. Once you apply the DSG/DSB rules and weigh the 1125 down a bit, it's levels the competition somewhat, but the torque of the 1125 is unmatched in that class. Add that to the obvious handling advantage that the 1125 seems to have on the competition and you can see why a very good rider like Eslick managed to win. Keep in mind, he was the only Buell 1125r rider to win a race all of last season. Eslick has run very well so far on his Suzuki in 2010, so you can't attribute all of his success to the 1125r. Could more be done to even up the big V-twins with the 600cc I-4s? Probably, but the most leveling factor is the rider. Only Ducati pilots have had any chance for a podium thus far. Personally, I think the 1125R belongs in the Superbike class only. I'd rather see these V-twin manufacturers build smaller 800cc bikes to compete in the DSB class instead of making some formula to gimp 1100cc+ bikes down to 600cc I-4 performance, but the rider clearly made the biggest difference in 2009.

Fish - Fish to CBR-VTR  April 6, 2010 02:38 PM
Why would Buell Change their design. They chose to be a twin and not a 4 cyl. like Reaper said below... when you have 4 cylinders, you have more pistons working simultaneously to produce that power, therefore the engine is smaller. a 2 cylinder engine has less pistons which have to work that much harder to make the same kind of power that a 4 cyl has, hence the larger engine. it really isnt about the size of the engine so much as the internal working components of it.

1125R Fan - Torque vs HP  March 1, 2010 11:08 AM
To all the haters out there! Racing a 1125 V-Twin against a 600 I-4 is a fair fight, where the V-Twin ROMPS with torque, the I-4 owns with HP. It is all about power to weight and riding style. Myself having started on a SoftTail back in the day learned to ride torquey bikes better than bike with higher hp! Also, the Buell being a heavier bike, requires more umph to get going, if the rules were set for CC size alone, heck, EVERYONE would run a Ninja, or whoever is currently leading, but the DMG rules allow bike from all manufacturers, all different sizes to compete, and each bike is chosen per the riders comforts. Torquey V-Twins for guys like me, I-4s for guys who need more HP and cant handle the torque, and hell even the Speed Triple motors made by Triumph for those who want a good mix!

gixxer1k k8 rider - twins? inline 4's?   January 15, 2010 08:30 PM
thats like putting cats and dogs in the same cage. keep the engine styles in different classes. Next thing you know the japanese will make a wicked twin 1198, and embarass buell once again. hehehehe.

Reaper - To Raisel  September 3, 2009 12:55 PM
Raisel, You have issues man, lol. The Buell is down 2 cylinders as opposed to the 600's 4 cylinders. They have to double the CC in order to compete. They are equal. Don't hate because the Buell is that good. I had to choose between the Buell 1125r or the ZX-14 and I chose the Buell. I have absolutely no regrets, once you get used to the v-twin mannerisms, the Buell is an awesome machine in every way and an absolute blast to ride.

mogman - Daytona Sportbike Shootout  June 15, 2009 06:52 PM
Hats off to Mr. Atlas for a candid ride on the three bikes. In the end, it is, as he indicates, a clear point that the 1125R has the correct mix to compete fairly using the DMG rules. Atlas also indicated that he has reservations as to the fairness of those rules, so I'll give him an honest OK for voicing his feelings during the video. No matter what bike one rides or how angry one is about the Buell 1125R, the simple fact is, it now works better than the best pick 600 and a very expensive foreign bike. For the amount of measurable air to fuel, measurable horsepower and measurable weight as relates to the DMG specifications and limitations, the bikes are competitive. The races and their following have swelled and it is controversial. People love it and hate it but it sure is not boring. For all the folks who thought the 600 was the slickest pick...... be careful........ 1125Rs are lurking out there.

Raisel - I'm sorry, but...  June 4, 2009 02:30 AM
I really hate Buell. I mean, even more, quite a bit more actually, than I hate Yamaha. Don't get me wrong, Yamahas make good power, and they are fast and handle well and blah blah blah, but I just don't like them, even though I own one! There is just something about Yamahas that ticks me off a great deal, I can't really explain it. Maybe it's the "attitude" of the bikes, or something like that. Anyways, if you ask me, Buell, the company, is a big stupid joke. I just can't take them seriously. The only American "powersports" company that I do like is Chevrolet, and that really only because of the Z06 and ZR1. Sorry for going off topic here. This video just got me thinking a little. I am definitely of the mindset that racing an 1125 against a 600, officially, is pretty ridiculous. I mean, its a totally different story if you're out on the street (or even at a track) just having fun, but professionally, and calling it fair? That's just wrong if you ask me!