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Honda Confirms New VFR1200F and CB1100

Wednesday, September 30, 2009
Honda has confirmed its motorcycle lineup for the upcoming 2009 Tokyo Motorcycle Show, set for October 24 – November 4. Headlining the list is official conformation of a V-4 powered sport-touring motorcycle, the VFR1200F. Also slated to debut at Tokyo is the four-cylinder, retro-styled CB1100.

Honda VFR1200F

Honda is saving the details for Tokyo, but here’s what it has said about the new VFR. First, Honda confirms it is a “sport-touring bike.” So the mysterious new VFR is not a V-4 superbike as the enigmatic V-4 concept unveiled at last year’s INTERMOT Show hinted. Also confirmed is the VFR1200F will feature Honda’s new Dual Clutch Transmission, the first such design, Honda claims, “for large-displacement sport bikes.”

For more information on the Honda Dual Clutch Transmission check out the explanatory video below.



Honda is still keeping official pics of the new bike under wraps (though intrepid readers will not have trouble finding the spy shots).
2010 Honda CB1100 Tokyo Motor Show concept.
The CB1100 takes cues from its UJM CB predecessors, but will the new Honda become a production reality?
The Honda CB1100 is a concept bike slated for the 41st Tokyo Motor Show. At least for now...

For the full details and specs of the new VFR1200F stay tuned for a complete first look report as soon as the information is available. We also have a pretty good hunch (wink) we might be riding the new VFR during an upcoming visit to Japan this October.

Honda CB1100

Honda describes the CB1100 concept’s debut at the 2009 Tokyo Show as its “world premier.” However, the design looks quite reminiscent of similar CB-themed concepts shown at previous Tokyo shows. Sourcing retro lines from its UJM CB line, the CB1100 is obviously air/oil cooled with conventional forks, side-mounted rear shocks and dual disc front brakes. Beyond visual hints, there are no other specifics except Honda’s explanation that the new CB1100 “explores the potential of the air-cooled, 4-cylinder engine while building upon the aesthetic appeal and riding taste of the generations of CBs.”

Well, the potential of the CB1100 lined up against its vintage-themed competitors (e.g. Triumph Modern Classics, Ducati SportClassics and rides like the Moto Guzzi V7) seems great. But will it become a production reality? If so, will it head to the States? Will it be a relaxed street bike, or a high-performance standard?

Looks like we’ll have to wait until Oct 24 we’ll have more questions than answers.
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Comments
Goldenhawk -VFR1200F Price  January 2, 2010 08:11 PM
Hi All Happy New Year. Sounds like a great Bike. I read the price is 11496 Pounds or just over $19000.00C at todays conversion rate. Still worth it. I wish the weight was down. 172HP for a bike over 600 lbs. A 1198 Ducati is 170 HP and weighs 386 Lbs. Around the same price. I realize they are totally different bikes but just comparing. I think the Honda is a beautiful looking Bike.
CFODK -CB1100  November 13, 2009 05:49 AM
Evil rumour is that the Japanese will keep this bike for their home market.

Please support the petition:

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/CB1100/

Bring Honda CB1100 to USA and Europe!!!
jg -about time  November 2, 2009 05:19 PM
About time. Good old standard jsut the way i like them....but with FUEL INJECTION. Basic, air cooled reliability, with the ease of EFI. Honda.....If you make it, they will come. (Just keep her under 10K on the price!)

Oh....a 750 EFI variant would be even better!


Don Fournier -CB1100  October 27, 2009 08:23 PM
Come to think of it, I'll take a V65 Sabre.
Don Fournier -CB1100  October 27, 2009 07:56 PM
This is the sleeper look I've been talking about. With 175 horsepower you could go out and play with the sportbikes. Sounds like fun to me. Or maybe a CB 1400 with a driveshaft? Naked of course. I think it'll be the next trend. Or take the scoops off of the V-Max. I think they sold a standard Suzuki 1400 in other countries, and were selling aftermarket goodies for it that made it run pretty good, and it was air cooled with dual rear shocks. I bought a brand new 03 Bandit for 6k. An 11 sec. 1200 with low insurance! I used to eat the rockets because of the torque the thing had down low. What a blast. Wanna race my old CB Honda? Take care guys, Don
Cat -CB1100  October 27, 2009 12:33 PM
I love the classic look of the CB1100 - I'd buy it in a heartbeat but will it come to Canada in the new year?? I need to know!! :)
Clint -cb1100 cost  October 10, 2009 06:38 AM
They'll probably sell the cb1100 for around $1,000 dollars or so less than the Ducati sport classic. Hopefully with it being a Honda the insurance rates will be a little lower.
mike tiberio -too much, too late  October 8, 2009 10:31 AM
35 years after Moto Guzzi came out with a 1000 Automatic with integrated brakes. Are we all supposed to genuflect to honda now?
Jas -Honda CB 1100  October 5, 2009 02:31 PM
I like the Honda Cb 1100. I'd buy one if it landed in OZ at a reasonable price. But I'll wait and see. Honda retros are always over priced and never sell and I'll probably go a Bandit, which will probably have more for le$$.
RForre1 -CB1100  October 4, 2009 08:45 PM
I was excited about the Deuville making it over here too until I saw the list price of $10K. Hope this bike isn't overpriced too. My plan is to do what I did when I purchased my NT650 Hawk years ago - wait a year or two then buy one still sitting on the dealer floor for a reasonable price.
urbster -Honda CB1100  October 3, 2009 12:01 PM
Mmmm Of course you Guys the other side of the pond never got to get the mighty CB1300, one of the best bikes ever built by Honda.
Skinrashslave -I'll just take a Sprint ST 1050 now  October 2, 2009 06:06 PM
I'll just take a Sprint ST 1050 now and get a sweet triple, plenty of power and a proper manual clutch. I for one don't want automatics while riding or driving. They're not fun, nor safe -- you get lazy and complacent. Now ABS, that's another story and well worth the technology. Personally, though I know that VFR's (I loved my old VFR 750) have been always been V4s, I wish Honda would have taken the CBR1000RR engine and used that for a sport-tourer. Ah well, who can see inside the mind of motorcycle manufacturers these days.
Paul -tc  October 2, 2009 01:21 PM
“well seeing all the jap'r V Twins are getting slaughtered by Harley”
I guess Harley closing plants, letting go thousands of its employees, and cutting back production of its bikes by the thousands every quarter is “slaughtering” to some people.

“looks like HD is entering the fray with MV.now a cruiser with the MV engine?holy turds”....And “holy turds” is pretty much what I think when I think of Harley’s bikes.

John Wodarski -cb1100  October 1, 2009 07:37 PM
I like it. But I am waiting for a new valkyrie...Mother Honda are you listening
tc -cb1100  October 1, 2009 06:50 PM
well seeing all the jap'r V Twins are getting slaughtered by Harley,i could dig a ujm but was really dreaming of a 70's kaw z900,the hondas fine though and i like it. zook could easily step up with a ujm bandit by moving the pegs down and forward a bit and viola! a-oh,looks like HD is entering the fray with MV.now a cruiser with the MV engine?holy turds....
fdgpkr -CB?  October 1, 2009 11:19 AM
For what Honda is going to want to purchase the CB, I could get a sweet used ride off of C*****list and have cash leftover to go somewhere. There are a ton of bikes out there that'll do what the CB will do and you won't have to mortgage the house to get it! Ditto on the used VFR market. The big 4 raised their bike prices $500+ across the board. "Yea, that's a great idea given this economy and all". Like Starbucks and Blockbuster, those manufacturers will learn a hard lesson in economics and market saturation. Too high of price + lots of used examples for sale = NO SALE!
Neil -CB 1100 - I have owned four CB's from 650-750  October 1, 2009 11:03 AM
I would welcome the CB1100 here in the States. I could get this and that other bike which do something different and look different. But with the CB it is just about riding simplicty, the simple upright, wind in your face, ride. Over to the store to get milk. Down the street to visit family or friends, to work, the cafe with your laptop to write the great american novel and so on. It's also about not forgetting Honda's roots, the basic transportation motorcycle. The 1100 is a giant Honda Cub flung far into the future. Like Mad Max years ago, we are in that future. As for styling, well we all have our ideas of style. No two artists are alike. I rode my last Honda Nighthawk 750 11k miles in a year. It sat in the drive and said, "let's go for a spin" and I kept on listening.
SAMxrl -CB1100  October 1, 2009 06:30 AM
I have to chuckle when readers get all enthusiastic over a standard like the CB1100. Honda's released many standards that were recieved favorably by the public and press. Kawasaki had the ZRX and (I believe) the Zephyr UJM's too. Guess what happened to all those bikes. Due to slumping sales and or lack of interest they all got axed from their lineups. If Honda is true to form then they'll set the retail price ridiculously higher than their competition and end up bailing on this model in a few years. Honda's version of Harley elitism? HMMM? If I was in the market I'd take the Bandit 1200 but since I'm not I'll just have to make due with my 650L.(another D.P. that's overpriced and in need of a new model)
Interested -CB 1100  October 1, 2009 05:08 AM
Nice bike but I will still take a Moto Guzzi Griso 8V 1200. If this will be anything like the DN01 then it will be overpriced.
Brian -CB- make it!  September 30, 2009 08:26 PM
I LOVE the looks of the CB! I hope they make it! As mentioned, however, they could easily kill it with the price. It would be nice if they could keep the weight down too (I hope the retro-looks don't bring retro-weight)!
Juan Cruz -CB and VFR12  September 30, 2009 08:19 PM
I do not think the cb1100 will make it stateside in 2010 due to emissions laws, that air cooled motor in its current form will not pass. As for the VFR... Im think late 2010 release as a 2011, and it will be priced with ST1300s, somewhere in the $16,000 range, if not more.
Neal -Will it be a relaxed street bike, or a high-performance standard?  September 30, 2009 03:58 PM
It will be a relaxed street bike.

1100 cc's is a lot, but its air cooled and Honda is usually pretty conservative in its engine tuning. It took Guzzi 30 years to get an air cooled engine to over a hundred horsepower and Ducati doesn't even make one. I can't see this engine being more than 95 hp and probably will be disappointingly less than that. Even air-cooled, she'll be a heavy girl too.

I hope Honda gets the pricing right. IMO, it has to cost within $600 or so or the upcoming unfaired Bandit 1250 to be relevant at all. Given Honda's recent odd pricing strategy, I predict this will be at least $11,000 and more than I'm willing to even consider.

It would be pretty sweet with clip-on's/rearsets though.
MCUSA -Edit  September 30, 2009 02:36 PM
Good catch. Text changed, those are conventional forks.
Stew -Why?  September 30, 2009 02:32 PM
Looks like this bike will just cannibalize sales from the ST1300. And in order to do that Honda will only need to sell about 3 or 4 of these VFR1200F.

Or if Honda sells more than 5 of these VFR1200F then they will have sold more VFR1200F than VFR800 in the past 10 yrs. So I guess what I am saying is; why is Honda putting so much attention and resources into models that nobody buys when they don’t even have an entry level bike that people want to keep more than 1-3 months?

I guess Honda thinks their customers will just graduate from a shadow 750 right to a CBR, Gold wing, VFR1200f, or Fury.

I suppose this explains why Kawasaki has had such huge sales success with its Ninja 250R and Ninja 650R and Yamaha and Suzuki trying to cash in on this segment with their FZ6R and Gladius 650.

Maybe Honda is just smarter and has decided to forget this segment and instead will focus only on bikes it can get $16K or more.

Quinn -Inverted???  September 30, 2009 02:06 PM
"the CB1100 is obviously air/oil cooled with inverted forks"

Really? Where are they? All I see is conventional forks.
SilverStreaj -Honda DualCluch  September 30, 2009 01:37 PM
I own a Yamaha FJR1300AE 2006 Model. The Honda appears to operate exactly the same as my electric-shift when in the "manual" upshift mode in the demo. Now my FJR does not have the fully automatic upshift mode which is handy in normal traffic, but I don't really need or want that. For those of you who are new to this, I find the UP shifting and more importantly DOWN shifting to be much faster in real world use than manual clutching. In fact, electric down-shifting when approaching corners or sweeping turns is a real big advantage as opposed to clutching. On my other clutch bike VTX1300, down-shifting is a lot of bother getting the clutch to synch with the RPMs, and it takes a long time for non-racers like me to get it right. So usually, I just skip it going for the brake instead.

See my You Tube demo at this link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdoBrPafIPo