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2009 Big Dog Coyote Comparison

Monday, June 1, 2009
Though the 2009 Coyote is Big Dogs least expensive motorcycle to date  the Coyote has the same killer paint and graphics  shiny chrome  and monster motor Big Dog bikes are known for.
Though the 2009 Coyote is Big Dog's least expensive motorcycle to date, it still has the same killer paint, shiny chrome, and monster motor Big Dog bikes are known for.
Climbing off the Fury, it’s time to get behind the handlebars of the 2009 Big Dog Coyote. The rider’s triangle is slightly different, as the Coyote’s bars are a little higher and at 24.5 inches, the seat is lower. The reach to the forward-mounted foot controls is a tad longer and arm position is higher, leaving me stretched out aggressively but still comfortably upright and leaning slightly back. The black leather seat is wider than the Fury’s and is plenty cush, but after long stints in the saddle, the spot where the seat raises up over the back fender begins to press against the small of my back.

Give the Big Dog’s notoriously stiff clutch lever a firm pull, twist the Coyote’s throttle and hold on tight. The prodigious low-end torque, which spikes between 2200 – 2400 rpm, will try to separate man from bike on hard launches. With its cylinders stroking at 4.375-inches in the big 4.125-inch bore, the 117 cubic-inch S&S engine puts out a whopping 1917cc, which is plenty to catapult this laden 695-lb beast off the line. The motorcycle pulls hard throughout the powerband until a little past 5K, with a Baker 6-speed transmission reliably putting the power to the back wheel. The Baker 6 is the standard amongst most factory-custom shops because of its industrial design, and each gear on the Coyote engages with a familiar clunk. Fuel spitting into the heads from the S&S Super G Carb is compressed at a 9.6:1 ratio, but fuel delivery sputtered and backfired at times. And while the Fury’s single-pin crankshaft attempts to give riders that V-Twin lumping sensation, the vibey Coyote already has that feeling dialed in. Even at idle the bike pulses with power waiting to be unleashed.

The Coyote sources a 1917cc S S engine for its power that is mated to a Baker 6-speed transmission.
With almost 2000cc of power ready to be unleashed with a quick twist of the throttle, the Coyote engine is full of the character you'd expect in a chopper.
Crack the throttle and watch cars around you turn their heads to find out where that booming exhaust note is coming from. In the enclosed parking lot of the Excalibur Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas, the sound was almost overwhelming. Granted, the Big Radius is not a stock pipe, but oh, what a sound they put out. The stock 2-into-1 double-barrel exhaust is still heartier than the Fury’s pipes, though. The one point of contention with the Big Radius pipes is that they hang low and scrape easily on right hand turns, sacrificing some of the motorcycle’s lean angle.

Between the Coyote’s 21-inch tall front tire and its 250mm black chunk of Avon rubber is a 77.5-inch wheelbase. The 8.5-foot long motorcycle sports a rigid look but has hidden rear shocks connected to an A-frame swingarm and offers a well-balanced ride, thanks in part to Big Dog’s proprietary balance drive technology that places the final drive on the bike’s right side. A 41mm telescopic fork set out at 42-degrees assists the rear to soften things up a bit, but big bumps will challenge the full length of the front end’s travel. The Coyote replaces last year’s Mutt, and BDM claims the suspension has been softened up a bit, but it’s still a stiff ride. It does require more effort at the bars to tip into turns and needs a couple more feet of clearance than the Fury to execute a U-turn, but its low seat height and low center of gravity make it the best-handling Big Dog in the 2009 lineup that I’ve ridden.
The torque down-low on the 09 Coyote is the type that tries to separate man from motorcycle.
The torque down-low on the '09 Coyote is the type that tries to separate man from motorcycle.

Being a big bike with a heavy rake, you’d better have reliable brakes. The Coyote’s arrangement didn’t disappoint. The front and rear wheels have two-piece, full floating rotors, with Performance Machine four-piston stoppers on the front and a PM two-piston caliper on the rear. Braided steel brake lines not only look sharp but respond fast with a moderate squeeze. Stopping distance between the two bikes is about even, but the Fury did lock up easier than the Coyote.
The view from the bike’s cockpit is mostly unobstructed. A small, dial speedo is just big enough to let you know how fast you’re going, the tach lights up well, but the small low fuel symbol could be a little more noticeable. The chrome control housings add a touch of class to the bars, but the turn signals can be temperamental and don’t always engage on the first click.
You cant help but feel like a desperado riding Big Dogs cool Coyote chopper through the ghost town of Oatman.
With lines like this, it's easy to see why the 2009 Big Dog Coyote wins Motorcycle USA's Chopper Comparo.

One of the final criteria in choosing a winner is the small intangible we like to call the ‘Wow’ factor. The Fury grabbed the attention of Honda owners we encountered and industry peeps like the Vance & Hines guys, but the Big Dog grabbed everyone’s attention, and isn’t ego what these bikes are all about?

“The Big Dog offered more sex appeal – period. Louder, faster, very beautiful and everything was either chrome or billet,” said Lavine.

The Fury is a valiant first attempt at building a chopper by Honda. It’s got clean lines, a refined engine, smooth handling, and a fantastic price point at $13K. But to bring the Fury up to the Coyote’s standards, you’d have to swap out the wheels, pipes, engine, the fenders, and have some custom paint thrown on. All of a sudden the Coyote’s $24K asking price doesn’t look so bad. Plus the Coyote has the chopper character and attitude the Fury wants. And this is a chopper comparo, and there’s one bike that better represents this genre of bikes. The 2009 Big Dog Coyote continues to set the standard.


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Johnny -My K9  December 20, 2010 02:43 PM
I once bought a roadstar thought it was great too. I was really trying to kid myself I wanted a Harley. Sold It got a Harley 2007 RoadKing Custom Still have it But it sits in the garage, All I ride is my K9 dont kid yourself. If your not panty waste you'll ride a dog
gene mills -retired vet  August 10, 2010 11:18 PM
well i hate to say it but we all know who builds a better bike and more reliable bike at half the price !!! i know what i will ride and buy sorry big dog and harley you dug your own grave, too many people are switching brands !!reliabilty wins out !!! wake up harley !!
Craig -Big Dogs  June 5, 2010 11:39 PM
Big Dogs are junk I know I have one FOR SALE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Scott -apples and oranges, these bikes aren't in same class  May 23, 2010 01:09 PM
Hmmm let's compare an new market entry from Honda with a 15 year custom bike manufacturer Big Dog. Big Dogs have all the Wow factor,but it should for almost twice the cost! and Honda has Cool going for it. I have a custom, and it cost me a fortune. Do I have the luxury of taking my bike out for any distance, without a buddy riding with me..No We ride together, simply because one of us might have problems. I don't think a Honda owner even thinks about reliability, because he knows he'll make it there and back. does he worry about something vibrating off, I don't think so, does his plugs foul when he leaves his choke on? I don't know? Does his garage smell like gas because his carb got stuck, and pissed gas all night? Does a Honda rider ever tell his friends.. dude I can't ride this weekend my bike's down right now, I bet not. Heck he might not even know where his toolkit is on his bike!!! How can that be?? He probably isn't buddys with the local parts dealer either, where he can hang and share war stories with while spending big bucks on overpriced parts of billet and chrome. He is missing out on all that fun, I have never seen a Honda flea market, do they even exist?? They're most likly out riding, and missing all the fun and comradary we all know and love. Heck if they put some real metal on the Fury I'd probably buy one, so I could ride it while my custom is waitng on parts. My buddies would miss me, because I wouldn't be living to ride, I would be riding living it up! There is only one place I can think of you can buy a new factory waranteed chopper for 13G...That is Honda. If they ditch the plastic crap, I'd be smiling riding a Fury waving Hi to my buddies on the side of the road as they look down their noses at me. What a hoot!!
Keith -Thanks  May 23, 2010 01:02 PM
I really appreciate Harley taking the time and the ride to compare the Big Dog and the Fury. I am not interested in a Big Dog, but am very interested in the Fury. I wanted to hear what someone that knows motorcycles had to say about the Fury and I got the information I needed. Then Harley even commented further in this forum and repeated that he liked the Fury. Harley's overview has helped me decide that this is the bike I want for my next ride. Affordable, comfortable, great looking, dependable and more! As far as the guy that asks what I would feel like on a Fury next to a guy on a Big Dog at a traffic light, I'll tell you...I will feel great! I ride for me and hopefully the guy on the Big Dog rides for him! Peace to all!!!!
Tom -Affordable, Efficient, and Fun  May 11, 2010 05:14 PM
Regardless of what some value in their motorcycling experience it seems to me the Big Dog folks might be missing an opportunity, as are some of the other manufacturers... Honda will probably sell tens of thousands of these Fury's to the average working class guy in this country that wants a "chopper style" bike to ride that is reliable, affordable, and just plain fun...
Challenge is, can Big Dog make a 15,000 dollar ride and capture a piece of the market; or are they going to let Honda make millions with this bike? And yes, I am a Fury owner.
Johno -totally fair comparison  March 10, 2010 12:17 AM
The design and styling of the Fury is clearly a rip-off of Big Dog so its only fair to compare or in this case to contrast the two. Honda is targeting the Big Dog wannabes so if you opt for the Fury you obviously can't afford a Big Dog. The truth of the matter is that neither of these two bikes are real choppers. If you want a true chopper then go out and get yourself on old Harley or even an old Honda and a chop saw and welder and make yourself one. Where do you think the word "chopper" came from? I own a 2009 Rocker C and even though I don't go around calling it a chopper, I would have welcomed it being thrown into the mix.
Steven -Fury vs Big Dog  March 9, 2010 05:09 PM
Hey Buddys this comparison is a joke for me How can you put a smaller sized engine japan chopper to a hand built 117 cubic inch monster.. why Honda doesnt put the bigger VTX V Twin engine from the VTX 1800 is a legend for me.this would be a more serious comparison to me than this one here But i must say the Honda Fury is a nice looking Bike and 1300 ccm is enough .the Japs building very good Cruisers and choppers in these days and i guess they will improve the work in the future more and more if money doesnt matter i go for the Big Dog but the Honda Fury is nice too.For me the best Japs Cruisers are coming from Yamaha and Kawasaki
Anthony -Fury owner  February 17, 2010 03:14 PM
I own a fury and she is awesome. I have a few friends I ride with who own Bigdogs. The look of the BD is there and is ultimately much more serious looking - HOWEVER, they are true pieces of crap. These dudes have been fixing these bikes second and third times for the same issues. They joke about it also. There really is NO comparison like the last guy wrote the Fury wins hands down. This thing starts up after 2 weeks in a cold garage like a freakin dream. If you own a BD you are crazy or just simply want attention cause thats all it's good for. You will have years and years of unhasseled riding on a fury.

BD is going out of business within 1 year anyhow - LOL

Ant
Dar -U Kidding Me!  February 5, 2010 08:23 AM
Are you dopes out there really comparing a Honda Fury to a Big Dog? I mean any BIG DOG. Get away from me, there is no comparison. If you dont believe me tell me how you feel on your Fury while sitting next to the Big Dog at a light. Jesus please!
fury rider -fury vs big dog  December 28, 2009 07:21 PM
i bought the fury because it looks good and was priced right... i got a bud that owns a big dog, he has had nothen but trouble with that bike... the fury is a awsome riding bike, i vote for the fury hands down.
Al McKree -$13000 Cheaper  November 28, 2009 06:34 AM
Are you for real during a recession, Honda's Fury is $13000 cheaper and more reliable these days more than ever that is huge. Also Im sure if you rode it in any city people are gonna notice ya and wanna know what kinda bike it is too, I did when I first saw one thats why Im reading this review
Omar -Fury vs HD  October 30, 2009 01:54 PM
I will agree with most of you, I have the money to get a nice chopper but let me tell you after I saw the Fury this is all I need! The bike looks and rides awesome! HONDA FURY HANDS DOWN!
Val A. -The Honda needs to be tuned to not run so well.  October 20, 2009 08:34 PM
I think the tester summed it up with this "and isn’t ego what these bikes are all about?" So though the Honda runs smoother, quieter, shifts better, handles better, and is water cooled, and will more than likely require far less maintenance, as well as costs half as much, it is all about the fact that it does not stroke the fragile egos enough. So come on Honda!! Jack the price up, throw the muffler in the garbage, and let the neighbor kid mess with the engine so it runs ratty, and you will have a winner. I don't get why someone gets there ego stroked more if their bike runs crappier, and is louder and handles worse? Guess I just don't get it, because my ego feels better when I blast by someone on their out of tune lawn mower and they did not even hear me go by. But then I prefer performance over posing.
DB -Fury vs Big Dog  July 16, 2009 04:13 PM
I'm sure Honda is gonna amp up the Fury as the years go by. After market options for the Fury will be many. Ten years from now Big Dog will have to drop their prices just to compete.
Brad -Fury vs Big Dog  July 14, 2009 06:35 PM
Gotta agree with several of the other readers; you can't fairly compare a $13k bike with a $24k bike. Ask Big Dog what they can offer at $13k and see what you get. As for me, if I've ever got the money to spend $24k on a bike, it's gonna be either a Gold Wing or a Victory Vision Tour. If I'm spending that much dinero on a bike, I want to be able to ride looong distances on it, and be able to still walk upright when I get there.
tomtang -fury vs. big dog  July 8, 2009 03:58 AM
No comparison. The fury is a nice bike. A major problem for the fury will be honda will not have an assortment of parts to enhance the bike. All of the dogs are maxed out, but you can purchase power enhancers and also cosmetics for the dog. Honda makes a great bike and always will but they are out of their league when it comes to the Big Dogs!
Dr. Bob -Fury vs Big Dog  July 1, 2009 08:06 AM
Yup, there are a lot of people who want a nice custom chopper. For those who can't afford one, there is the off the shelf Fury. Like most bikes in the Honda line, it is clean, reliable, inexpensive, and conservative to the point of dull. The Fury is no more a custom chopper than a Camry convertable is a custom sportscar.
Lanark Moose -Fury vs Big Dog  June 18, 2009 06:27 PM
I agree that the Rocker should have been in the comparison. I think HD would be shakin in thier monogramed HD booties at the thought. You also never mentioned warrenty and access to service. What happens if your Big Dog breaks down in butt fu-k nowhere? Chances are there is a Honda dealer close by. Add to that the road side assistance. As far as cost difference, throw $11 000 into the Fury and see what you get. You will see me on a Fury this summer.
MrFurious -Fury vs Big Dog  June 16, 2009 07:44 PM
Well, it's like reading Car and Driver doing a Camaro vs a BMW M3 comparo. No one is really surprised when the BMW wins, but I see more Camaro's than Bimmers in my hood. Honda built and affortable and reliable chopper, and for a FIRST try in a new market pretty dang good. Give them 15 years and they might be the top dog. It was a unfair comparo and really should have been rethought by the editor and writer.
bluto -fury/b.d.  June 10, 2009 08:56 PM
they did'nt mention how many parts fell off the b.d. or how quickly you numb out.
Keith -Fury  June 7, 2009 02:29 AM
Went into the dealership today to look at the fury (went in a couple weeks ago, but they had sold out) and a couple things struck me. 1. The gap between the tire and rear fender wasn't nearly as bad as it looked in the pics. 2. The shaft drive and engine layout were exceptionally clean. 3. I'm not a fan of excessive chrome, but I am even less of a fan of plastic chrome, and this bike is covered in it. Ultimately it was the deciding factor in passing on the bike. Oh well, I will save my pennies and test ride a Rocker next... The Fury's tank is one of the sleekest and best designed around though.
Fred -pipes  June 4, 2009 08:39 AM
In my opinion and I believe in the opinion of most of the public, the Fury pipes sound just right as is. I have been riding motorcycles for over 40 years and presently have 8 of them and even I get pissed when I hear a pack of straight pipe idiots roll through town. They call attention to themselves, so I guess that brings them the satisfaction they are seeking, but it is attention of the wrong type. The booming sound of the Big Dog that you praise is pure shite of the type that turns people against motorcyclists.
Ricky -Big Dog for posers  June 4, 2009 07:56 AM
Honda is what it is... just better than anyone else in making BIKES & thats what they have done!! Big Dog costs more than twice of what Honda is but is it justified.. not even if I have lost my mind! Its only BLING THAT FARTS!
Paul -Big Dog - bummer!  June 4, 2009 02:22 AM
Chopperheads are so retarded that they consider themselves cool only when their chopper farts like hell!!! what is this obsession with pipes?? Kudos to Honda for making a chopper which might be having the best ride quality among all the choppers and is easy on the pocket! Ride loud OR ride good, the choice is yours!!! And Sololobo mentioned ego problem!! Buddy your ego will go for a toss on the other side of the highway when an inline four will roar past ya rattling chopper on tripple digit speeds!!!
SoloLobo -big fury  June 3, 2009 12:20 PM
Thanks for the article Bryan, I read it as a comparison of 2 totaly different classes of the same kind of bike rather than a coparison of the 2 bikes themselves. The Fury is all Honda, for guys that want an inexpensive chopper that is managably mellow and Honda dependable. Too much plastic for me, but I have the ego problem you mentioned. The Big Dog is in a whole different class than the fury, Dripping with Chrome and billet, with the best brand names in the buisness like S&S, Baker 6, Performance Machine and don't forget BIG DOG's reputation for fit and finish. Not a chopper for a Honda guy, but for the man that rides loud and hard and can finally afford the best, from the best.
bryan harley -thx for the input  June 3, 2009 10:35 AM
Man, where were your suggestions before the comparo? Hindsight's 20/20, but I would have loved to have thrown H-D's Rocker into the mix. We had the Fury and needed someone to throw it up against and Big Dog came through in the timeframe we had. I picked the lowest Dog on the totem pole, but I can understand your conjecture. Hopefully the review at least gave you a better feel of what both bikes are about. We try to disseminate helpful info for people pondering a big ticket purchase, so I hope there's something useful riders can glean from it. And don't thing I was bagging on the Fury. On the contrary, I enjoyed riding the Fury. I'm a fan of Honda efficiency, especially when it comes to its powertrains. And the Fury's handling, especially considering its rake and wheelbase, is exceptional. It's just Big Dog has been dialing in the factory-custom chopper for 15 years and are good at what they do. We like to give you what you want, so what are some of the other tests out there that you'd like to see? Let us know here in the forum and we'll make note of your suggestions before we start dialing up manufacturers asking for bikes for our next comparison. Thx for reading.
Tim B -So True!  June 3, 2009 09:50 AM
This quote from the article says it best: "...but the Big Dog grabbed everyone’s attention, and isn’t ego what these bikes are all about?" These overpriced, overweight, ill-handling pieces of eye candy are all for show. Guys like Milwaukee Mike love them. Most motorcyclists prefer bikes that actually function well.
Tom -'lean back'  June 3, 2009 07:55 AM
I don't see anything of that 'lean back' position talked about. Third picture on this page, he looks like the 'hunchback of the notra dame'. Lower back indeed backwards, but upper back and upper body curved and stretched to reach the handlebars. Very tiresome, I believe...
ep -should have added a third bike  June 2, 2009 08:06 AM
the honda is a budget chopper while the BD is top notch. a third bike, in the middle would have been a good choice i think. maybe a fat bob. as it stands this review is kinda like putting a ninja 500r up against a hayabusa.
Dilholio -fury vs big dog  June 1, 2009 10:38 PM
That honda is shyte , shaft drive doesn't go on a cruiser period .
benroe -comparison  June 1, 2009 09:07 PM
The dog should be compared to an occ chopper or the like. The fury is just not competitive nor will it ever be at this price. Maybe compare it to an HD model.
Ty -Good Reviews; Not a Comparison  June 1, 2009 04:11 PM
Sorry, interesting reading and reviews on individual bikes, but, as a "comparison," absolutely pointless. If either of the bikes were being given away free, I doubt that there would be a single bike aficionado (regardless of type - sport, cruiser, etc.) who would not choose the Big Dog over the Fury. Fact of the matter is that price does make a huge difference in a person's choice between different bikes. Even a thousand or two would be a factor, much less $11,000. This wouldn't be an issue if one had Jay Leno-type cash, but, if he did, he would probably never be in the market for a Fury. Yes, the Big Dog has bling up the butt that shames the Fury in comparison, but, if one absolutely has to have a chopper (new one, that is), but only has a $13K budget, the only game in town is the Fury. Fact is, the target markets for these two bikes, irrespective of the fact that they are both choppers, are completely different ones, and, as such, a "comparison" makes little sense. People don't buy choppers for their state-of-the-art performance technology, and in these terms, there's no question that the Big Dog fulfills its narcissistic mission far better than the Fury. At the same time, for someone who must have a chopper but has to even consider the Fury to satisfy that need, the Big Dog is not even close to being a choice. Not a chopper fan (though I would definitely take the Big Dog if someone gave it to me) and definitely not a Fury fan, and, for $13K, would get a liter bike, so have no particular vested interest in defending the Fury in this "comparison" here, but, c'mon, this makes zero sense. P.S. Just realized that Stevo already said pretty much everything I blathered on about, but in a much more succinct manner...
Keith -Fury v Big Dog  June 1, 2009 12:14 PM
Love the review, it affirms what Honda set out to do. Build a stylish chopper for those guys (me) who can't afford to put down a second car payment on a weekend vehicle. I'll have to swallow my pride and get a Fury until I get richer (ie older) and then pick up something in the vein of the Big Dog. Went to the dealer last weekend, they sold out the first models, will have more in next week. Can't wait to see in person.
Ryan -Fury vs. Big Dog  June 1, 2009 07:15 AM
Apples and Oranges...AMEN. There's a lot of people out there that want a "turn-key", reliable, composed, polished, chopper. But don't want to spend the money. The Fury is perfect! Great price point for what you get!!
Stevo -Fury vs Big Dog  June 1, 2009 03:05 AM
Dudes! Apples and oranges! Not much to comment on as a match up. More like 2 separate test rides. C'mon! Fury vs HD..with bikes in the same class. We all know this is what Honday was shooting for. And let the best bike win!