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STM: Disney World to Run MotoGP?

Tuesday, May 04, 2010
Single Track Mind - A Different Form of Entertainment - Disney World to Run MotoGP?
Ben Spies got his rookie MotoGP campaign off to a very positive start with a solid top-five finish - Qatar 2010
While Ben Spies did well in his debut race with the Tech 3 MotoGP team, only a small group of spectators came to witness.

I would like to begin this month’s STM by thanking all those readers who took the time and trouble and to add comments to my last column. If nothing else, they show mcusa.com is blessed with one of the most knowledgeable audiences in the bike world. I cannot say that I agree with all the views expressed but they were, nevertheless, fascinating.

However, fascinating is not a word which could be applied to the first round of MotoGP at Doha. Ben Spies was spectacular and yes, I think that with a decent grid position he would have been a credible challenger for third place position. But, Spies aside, there remains the overwhelming problem of a tiny entry and a largely processional race.

The end result was a spectacularly low physical attendance at Doha – something slightly in excess of 7,000 spectators. With an annual GDP of $30 billion no doubt Qatar’s government can well afford to subsidise MotoGP - but that’s not real world economics.

Jonathan Rea - 2010 World Superbike Valencia
Empty seats at Valencia missed out on some of the best sportbike racing ever.
By contrast, Valencia’s World Superbike event was absolutely routed in the economic present and it must have been a bad dream weekend for the promoters. A shade over 20,000 fans paid to watch some superb racing at the Circuit de la Comunitat Valenciana Ricardo Tormo - and this was in an arena which can seat 60,000 and take the same number again standing. To be blunt, the magnificent stadium was using just 16% of its capacity.

Worse still, this race was held in the heart of bike mad Spain and with a very credible potential Spanish winner in the form of Carlos Checa. Despite all these attractions, crowds were still pitifully small.

So this brings us to a very interesting conundrum. It is this. In my other life, away from writing for MCUSA, my wife and I own, and organize, a huge motorcycling street party which is held in the town of Northwich, in the North West of England. You can get an idea of what we do if you follow the Thundersprint link.

It is one thing to think that you have a great idea for a motorcycle event but it is rather different when you do what we did. First, I gave up a rather well paid job - along with a PA, swish car and briefcase: I kept only the briefcase to remind me of my past life!
Thundersprint Cavalcade
It was a gamble to set up the Thundersprint motorcycle racing festival, but year after year it pays off and draws larger crowds.

Then my wife resigned from her job so that we had no income whatsoever. Finally, we re-mortgaged our house so that if my idea of a bike event which would appeal to the general public was wrong we would be homeless and heading for in an inner city tenement - along with our four-year-old daughter. It was, by any standards, a somewhat serious bet.

That was 13 years ago and it seems that our original idea was sound because an awful lot of people come to the Thundersprint every year. Because the event is held in a town centre, and has free admission, no-one accurately knows how many people attend. The various experts we meet quote all sorts of figures from 75,000 to 150,000 spectators and one estimate is probably as good as another. Certainly, we would never make claims we can’t prove so we give the honest answer that we truthfully don’t know how many fans visit the Thundersprint each year.

Busy Street at Thundersprint
While the exact number of visitors isn't known, Thundersprint brings in a shade under $6.5 million to Northwich and the surrounding areas.
What we do know for sure is that we have just under a mile of vendor stands and every part of the show is a sell out. And by sell out I mean absolutely 100% totally sold out - not sales talk, “look at the length of my manly parts…” sell out.

At the heart of the Thundersprint is a 447 yard long sprint laid out in Northwich’s main parking lot which is about 100 yards from the absolute center of the town. English sprints are like drag races but with corners and only a single rider on the track at any one time.

The first straight passes the town’s main supermarket and the last corner threads its way through some enormous trees. All very quirky but, lined with grandstands just a few feet from the racing, the amphitheater feel is extremely popular with riders and spectators.

Jim Redman at Thundersprint
Visitors get a front-row seat to watch vintage motorcycles race like they did in their heyday.
A key attraction, so our customer surveys tell us, is that the bikes - mainly classic with a few modern Superbikes - are just a few feet from spectators on the other side of the safety fence. This means that the fans are really intimately involved with the racing, even though we have such a tiny circuit.

The other big attraction is that everything in the whole show - except the actual track - is completely open to spectators. There are no VIP areas or “Keep Out” signs - and a complete absence of shaven headed Security Guards with mirror sunglasses keeping fans away from the celebrities.

Regardless of whether it is 15 times World Champion Giacomo Agostini, or current star James Toseland, our guest riders have to be available to fans all the time at the Thundersprint. That’s an absolutely inviolable rule: make yourself 100% accessible to fans or you won’t be invited.

Glen Richard  James Toseland  and Steve Plater.
Glen Richard, James Toseland and Steve Plater wave to fans lining the track.
Now at this point I must stress, and then stress some more, that there is no way that the Thundersprint is comparable with MotoGP or World Superbike. Our “GP in a Parking Lot” should not even be considered in the same breath as any of the great motorcycle races.

However, we do have some very clear lessons to teach the Premier motorcycling races and our attendances, year after year, prove this. For whatever reasons, an awful lot of people come to the Thundersprint each year - and that is fact.

Critically, because the success of the Thundersprint depends on the support of the local government, we have a major impact on our region’s economy and this explains, so very clearly, why we are welcome in a small town in the heart of rural Cheshire.

A formal economic impact survey carried out by the North-West Development Agency, at last year’s event indicated that the Thundersprint brought a shade under $6.5 million into Northwich and the surrounding area during the long weekend, and these sorts of figures tend to make motorcycling rather popular with local politicians.

So what can a quirky event held in a small, quiet town teach the great and the good of motorcycle racing? First - and probably last and middle too - is that bikes are far more entertainment than sport. Racing enthusiasts know, understand and respect the minutiae of racing but the general public demand entertainment. This means that they want to get close to the action and feel part of it. Would you enjoy Disneyworld if you couldn’t get within half a mile of the Magic Kingdom?

George Formby and James Toseland
Thundersprint brings riders and fans together with some good old-fashioned racing on the side.
Next, the concept of VIPs is out of date. Let’s go back to Disney again. You want a hug from Mickey Mouse or Cinderella and you get one. The key criterion is that you pay your money and then you have open access. Forget this utterly stupid concept of paying a lot of money to enter the Magic MotoGP Kingdom - and then being told that you are unworthy to meet the cast.

Finally, broaden the appeal of the event. 39% of our customers are female. If one in every hundred people on the planet was female then, at least in a rigid business sense, event organisers could afford to ignore this sector of the market place. But when every second potential customer is female then a promoter would be stark raving mad not to ensure that they become visitors.

To make the Thundersprint attractive for female visitors we have areas for nursing Mums, chill out places for young kids where the family can relax and nothing which is going to irritate female customers.

You won’t see Umbrella girls at the Thundersprint nor will you find anything which is going to make women start to get fidgety and embarrassed. Keep the woman happy and the man stays on site too. Get the girl looking at her watch and asking if it’s time to go and, for sure, the bloke will be following soon.
Maypole Dancers
Events for the whole family to enjoy keep everyone happy and having a good time.

Add a few other bits and pieces such as making it difficult - but not actually impossible - to buy alcohol and then ensure that the whole site is rigidly pedestrianised and you have a relaxed, peaceful day out which appeals to everyone from hard core bike nuts to Mum and Dad enjoying themselves with the kids and Grandparents.

Critics of the Thundersprint - and there are a fair number - pour scorn on our non-motorcycling visitors but I don’t notice our vendors complaining when families spend their money or the hotels bitching that the room is occupied by Mum, Dad and a couple of kids rather than by two young men riding Fireblades.

At this point, let me reiterate that I am not, absolutely NOT, suggesting that the Thundersprint is a substitute for MotoGP, WSBK - or even good club racing. Equally, it is wrong to dismiss the event as an aberration. Now in our 13th year, we have record numbers of vendors who return year after year and make money. You can get lucky once or twice but you can’t persuade vendors and sponsors to come to your event for thirteen years in a row unless they see a very clear commercial benefit.
Sammy Miller rides to the finish.
While the Thundersprint may not be a MotoGP or World Superbike replacement, it can offer a few pointers to the premier events.

The same goes for riders. The entry list is full four months before the event and we are now processing requests to ride in 2011.

In short, by any standards the event is a success and therefore ought to be a case study for our Premier League race events where attendances are falling dramatically. Please do have a look at our website and then I look forward to reading your comments.

Alternatively, the great and the good from the bike racing world should make an appointment with the Disney Corporation and learn how to really market mass entertainment.
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Comments
MSW -Yes racing's different, but...  May 11, 2010 03:43 PM
I agree with both of the above sentiments that competition absolutely must be preserved and encouraged, but at the same time, MotoGP needs to realize that moving fans further and further away from the experience will be to their detriment in the long run. You can't get fans too close to MotoGP bikes on the track as in the event in this article, but there's an awful lot you can do to make the fan feel as if they're part of the event. As someone mentioned above, when you go to a MotoGP race these days, all you see is limited access and exclusivity. Hospitality tents, paddock passes, manufacturer-sponsored areas just for their club riders, etc. And this doesn't just exist at the track. It extends out into the community. Local hotels see these events as a chance to jack up their rates to obscene amounts without fear that they might be sacrificing the loyalty of a future customer. It's probably just the nature of an event that tours the world. MotoGP needs to rely on local organizers and businesses to host the event. These organizers and businesses likely believe that they need not worry about mistreating the customers, because those people are loyal to MotoGP and will always come back for more. Yes, MotoGP does need to start asking itself what it can do to make fans feel more like part of the event (e.g., as someone mentioned, start demanding that your riders actually do something for their sport instead of hiding in their air conditioned suites and only occasionally emerging to wave to the crowd from a distance like the princesses they are). But they also need to start exercising some control over the event organizers and local businesses. They need to realize that the fan doesn't care that it's the track who decided to sell tickets to the hospitality tents for $500 each. The fan doesn't care that MotoGP has no direct control over cheap motels charging $400 a night for a roach-infested room. The fan just knows there's only so much he'll put up with before he decides to stop traveling to the events and spend his dollars where he feels more valued. MotoGP needs to realize that all of those things contribute to how well their event is organized and start exercising some quality control by threatening to take their events elsewhere. Sure, they primarily care about TV ratings and motorcycle sales, but without tracks and local areas to support the events, they may not have venues from which to televise those races. I also have to think that there are lots of people who watch MotoGP on TV because they either do now or might someday attend an event. If MotoGP's events lose all of their allure for the fan, that's likely to lose significant TV ratings in the long run.
Furble -Marketing  May 6, 2010 12:11 PM
“the bike racing world should make an appointment with the Disney Corporation and learn how to really market mass entertainment.”

Only if it were so easy it would have been done already. There is a big difference between putting on a staged show, play or some form of rehearsed entertainment. I have watched many boring ball games and some exciting games, racing is no different. You can’t turn it into a Disney experience and why would you want to. Your event is not only different in scale but also in what entertainment it is offering. WSBK and Moto GP have massive history and tradition and being a fan of either sport requires some fundamental knowledge of the sport. As an example anybody can start watching certain motorcycle events like say stunting because it is low grade entertainment: needs little understanding, offers no real value, and catches your attention through stunts. Anyone can watch it and say oooooo ahhhhh look at that wheelie or stopie but not anyone can identify a brilliant overtaking move under hard braking in an off camber turn with a decreasing radius.

The race in Doha is always poor on attendance and who cares it is their loss. The next GP round had 122,000 fans. They have two now in the states and they are both huge successes; even the WSBK round in the US is doing well.

I don’t think the sport needs gimmicks to attract new fans or more hardcore fans. How about giving the fans more of what they actually came to see… moto racing. Yeah this might catch on. Moto GP should go to a two race per round like WSBK does and don’t give me the cost crap because the biggest cost is travel and logistics neither of which matter if you are racing at the same track. A little bit extra gas and tires and you are good to go. It worked out very well for WSBK. Most fans will go to a single GP race and not return because the travel, lodging, food, tickets, muggings at the concession stands and etc. costs for a 40 min. race!!! More racing means more value for your dollar which will mean more fans. We came for the racing not for the marketing gimmicks and bands who you never heard of and consequently suck.

Your event is out in the public space which is one of the key reasons for its success. Go to any town in the summer when they are having their “taste of the town” and usually you will find many people because it is something for all ages and types, easy to access and offers a broad appeal of entertainment which does not require you to be alertly tuned in to enjoy. WSBK and GP are not quite the same; more effort is required.

Some people go to a baseball game to watch good pitching duals, sound base running and brilliant defensive plays…other people go to watch home runs, girls in tank tops and drink beer. Neither is wrong but one should be incidental entertainment and the other should be the main draw.
MTGR -Wrong Assumptions  May 5, 2010 07:01 PM
This article is assuming two things. First, that racing is only about entertainment. Which, historically at least, is incorrect. Racing began as a means of development and not entertainment. Second, that GP level racing itself cares about attendence. I am sure the track owners/promotors do, but realistically all the actual GP owners care about is TV ratings because that is their direct income source. And, other than the opening wide-angle grid shot, no one watching on TV ever gets any sense of how many people are at the race or in the race anyway.

Personally, I want to see the worlds top racers fighting on the worlds fastest machines. I don't care about people fighting over 15th place and at least if they are not there it is less likely they will become lappers that might interfere with the real racing up front. And I don't care about people racing bikes just like mine, that is nothing special - hell, even I can do that myself.

Some races become boring, yes, but that is always a risk of any sporting event of any kind, they can't all be spectacular. (This Superbowl might have been great, but how often is that really the case?) At least with cutting edge machines and the best riders you can still appreciate the effort and talents and improvements (mechanical and human) of all involved.

If Michelin had not been forced out of MotoGp, and their riders would not have been allowed to illegally break existing contracts, they may well have come back the next year with tires that sent the Bridestone guys back to the drawing board. And, aside from naturally shaking up the order and creating drama, this would have had the added benefit of eventually improving tires for all motorcyclists.

I think all this endless concern and manipluation in an effort to improve the "entertainment value" of racing is just perpetuating a negative view of racing and preventing manufactures and riders alike from developing as they did in the past. Everything goes through up and down cycles, but if you constantly change it then it can never rebound properly and you therefore create a constant need to manipulate until you end up with NASCRAP - which now has as much in common with real racing as WWF does with Olympic Wrestling. (and don't feed me crap about their grand successes, they were handed US racing on a platter by CART/IRL self destruction and they still drove off most true fans. Their constant manipulating is even starting to annoy the 'couch potato idiots who can't even start a car' that they now have to cater to.)

In the long run, constantly messing with the formula of any racing destroys the value of its history and lowers its perceived legitimacy. It does nothing to help and everything to hurt racing.
NorCal R6'r -What about . . .  May 5, 2010 01:18 PM
You use the opening rounds of Qatar for GP and Velincia for WSBK as the bench mark for your opening statments. And yes they both did have low numbers for attendance. But what about round two of GP at Jerez latst weekend? 122,000 in attendance. Perhaps its not the GP series, WSBK series, or the racing itself that should be questioned. But instead, the circuts themselves? Just a thought.
Big Ron -Exposure  May 5, 2010 01:13 PM
I do agree with your analogy regarding the exclusivity/elitism but I think there is a much larger problem; its exposure. NASCAR has fans of all socieconomic backgrounds. These people dont have race cars in there garage but they love the sport, I personally have no idea why. My new (environmentalist) girl freind went to a race and had an absolute blast, I dont think she watched any of the race. Why? There is alot more to do at the event than just watch the race which is good for the fan who wants to bring his nonfan wife or girl freind (just dont take both). I disagree with the beer thing; I like my beer and I would not be happy if I was unable to get a beer at the track. If you dont want a beer dont buy one.
I ride with people that have production "SUPERBIKES" who dont know who Rossi is. You can call them ignorant but the reality is there arent alot of venues to attract new fans that are unfamiliar with the sport. My first race as a spectator was the 07' Moto GP at LS; I didnt know who Rossi was or that GP was the premier class; I went to see Speis vs Mladn because that is what I had seen on the tube. The only network that carries the sport that I know of in this country is the SPEED Channel and they show the races at anything but prime time. For example, I could have watched the MOTO GP 2 at 1-AM this morning, wow, really. Most fans arent going to watch the race at 1-AM much less a guy that doesnt even know about the sport. I know, a DVR; thats fine for a hardcore fan but what about the guy that doesnt even know about the sport much less the GP-2 category. The SPEED Channels programming is horrible as it has turned into a reality show network that has little focus on racing other than NASCAR and some of there NASCAR based programming has little to do with racing. There representative shows for road bikes is American Thunder and Superbikes. No disrespect to JB but I dont care to watch how many different variations of a wheelie he can do on television; I would live. The speed channel is a seperate gripe session; back to my point. The racing organizations have got to get some races on prime time in order to draw attention to the sport and draw in new non-riding fans. I turned a non riding freind onto it last year and he doesnt miss a race, took him to Miller for the WSBK and we are going to the GP at LS in July; so you dont have to own a bike to be a fan of the sport. People are not going to attend races for a sport they dont even know exists. They have to see it on television before they are going to coin over the money to go and see a race. The big difference between it and auto racing is they can buy a bike that is very similiar to the one that they will see on television.
PC -Apples & Oranges  May 5, 2010 11:16 AM
There are many types of motorcycle events I love, and Thundersprint sounds like it would easily make the list. Unfortunately, I just don't see the comparison. But it's worth some thought and adds more to this valuable discussion than I have; so thanks.
Steve Atlas -Frank Melling for FIM President?  May 5, 2010 09:37 AM
Having been on many sides of the coin (moonlighting professional racer/spectator/journalist), I know why MotoGP and WSBK do what they do. While I would never claim to be any anything close to those levels, on top of the racing I have done, I do have close friends who currently are at those levels, so I've seen firsthand the mob that forms for VR, Nicky or Jorge at a Euro Grand Prix the second they get off the bike.

At the same time, there needs to be a balance. It has gotten too exclusive in an effort to keep the riders happy. Too many people are following the Formula 1 model. I think that while there needs to be some safeguards, the riders could do more to earn those millions and be closer to the fans. I know for a fact that Nicky wouldn't mind it in the slightest. He's always the last to leave an autograph line. I also agree that racing is entertainment and that MotoGP and the likes, AMA especially, could learn a lot from a trip to Disney World.

Nicely said Frank and hopefully someday I'll be able to come over to Thundersprint. Sounds like a great event...

Todd -back in the day............  May 5, 2010 05:45 AM
Back in the day of the major swell of Motocross in the US you'd go to the track and see the stars whiz by you while you cheered them on, then go over to the pit area and see, smell and actually get an autograph from the likes of one Bob Hannah. Truly a great showman and had a following along the lines, but not the size, of Vale Rossi. He was a true showman, sportsman, and pure riding talent. Now, my love of GP and WSB makes me wonder why I'd want to GO to a race when I can watch them on the tube. Like you say, if you can't get IN to the Magic Kingdom, why go?
adam-motousa -frank melling  May 4, 2010 10:29 PM
your event sounds awesome
tom -Jerez attendance was over 122,000 for MotoGP w/ booze and paddock girls  May 4, 2010 09:51 PM
Qatar allows no liquor, woman aren't even allowed out of the house and the race itself was on their version of a thursday night. Go figure Tho I do get what you're saying about the VIP malarkey, that IS annoying. P.S. MotoGP > WSBK
Zapper -Now THAT'S entertainment!  May 4, 2010 08:43 PM
Thanks for the insights Frank. As an attendee to AMA and MotoGP -- maybe WBK this year -- I can say that even as a fan, I often find the cost prohibitive and the exclusivity and general attitudes annoying. I'm there to have fun, see cool bikes, balls to the wall racing, etc, not get screened out of a Ducatista-only area, get raped by drink and food vendors, or have poster girls pretend to like me and sell my some cheesecake calendar. My wife goes with me and rides too, and she's tired of the cliche "girl rider" crap that's either pandering and cliquish and downright slutty. Locally, I like the AFM races, because they're for racers and fans without all the pretension. For seeing motorcycles I find that CycleWorld's International Motorcycle Show is a let down. It has most of the right elements, but it lacks a cohesive energy. Enough blathering on my part. Thundersprint sounds spot on.
ridexxx -very good!  May 4, 2010 07:31 PM
Frank, from a marketing & business stand point .. you hit the nail right on the head. Very well said.
Jeram -great article  May 4, 2010 07:12 PM
thumbs up!

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